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Goldie fish
22nd February 2008, 20:56
I understand L.E Eithne is heading for the US this year to show the Flag for Paddys day. Anyone know of other trips?

moggy
24th February 2008, 17:04
I understand L.E Eithne is heading for the US this year to show the Flag for Paddys day. Anyone know of other trips?

thats the only one so far -

A/TEL
24th February 2008, 18:56
thats the only one so far -



Kiel
Liverpool
Lisbon
Black Sea

Goldie fish
25th February 2008, 06:00
Kiel
Liverpool
Lisbon
Black Sea

Who and when? I assume Kiel week is included as always.

golden rivet
1st March 2008, 12:14
I understand L.E Eithne is heading for the US this year to show the Flag for Paddys day. Anyone know of other trips?
:biggrin: the chief with the most time at sea is getting this trip joe h..... he probably deserves it as he saved a lot of chiefs from going to sea when it was their turn welcome to new york joe the most handsome man on the parade:biggrin: :biggrin:

Connaught Stranger
1st March 2008, 12:25
With regards the Black Sea any chance of being kept posted on that one.

I was sent an invitation to visit the ship last year,

when they were supposed to visit the Romanian Port of Constansa

but they were refused entry into the Bosperous by the Turks due to lack of paperwork.

The port is located on the far side of the country from where I live in Transylvania and

I would require 24 -36 hours travel time by train to get there.

Connaught Stranger

Goldie fish
1st March 2008, 12:38
Hopefully I'll have it before they depart.

A/TEL
1st March 2008, 14:09
Hopefully I'll have it before they depart.



I have a friend on the ship

Ill find out over d w-end

golden rivet
6th March 2008, 17:58
"The Brad"...what a man.

:mad: stop all this ould mary talk and give us pensioners some info

Goldie fish
6th March 2008, 20:19
:mad: stop all this ould mary talk and give us pensioners some info

My thoughts exactly. Keep the shite talk for private messages please folks.

Able
10th March 2008, 16:25
:mad: stop all this ould mary talk and give us pensioners some info

what dates and what ports... for the Eithne?
.................................................. ...............................

The LE Eithne will not be in New York.

Regards,

Consulate General of Ireland
345 Park Avenue
New York NY 10154-0037

.................................................. ......................................

golden rivet
20th March 2008, 00:25
I understand L.E Eithne is heading for the US this year to show the Flag for Paddys day. Anyone know of other trips? Any word or pictures back from the trip they were on

Goldie fish
20th March 2008, 20:43
Miami.

A/TEL
20th March 2008, 21:39
Miami.



And Charleston

yooklid
20th March 2008, 22:12
And Charleston

Now that's a fun town! Hope they enjoyed themselves.

hedgehog
21st March 2008, 11:25
Are they going to Kansas City this time

A/TEL
21st March 2008, 13:31
Are they going to Kansas City this time

Never have and never will...

hedgehog
21st March 2008, 13:36
Never have and never will...

Apart from its location a gazillion miles away from the sea

whats wrong with Kansas

A/TEL
21st March 2008, 13:41
Apart from its location a gazillion miles away from the sea

whats wrong with Kansas

I know, hence the sarcastic answer.......

The Mississippi river runs into the Missouri river which passes through Kansas City so technically is it possible. The old American Steamers have done it.

Why ask???????

hedgehog
21st March 2008, 13:43
I have a cousin that just moved there

So it was on my mind

Goldie fish
21st March 2008, 13:43
Hedgehog Likes asking pointless questions....

A/TEL
21st March 2008, 13:47
Hedgehog Likes asking pointless questions....

Ive noticed.... :biggrin:

hedgehog
21st March 2008, 13:48
Hedgehog Likes asking pointless questions....

you make it sound so dirty

A/TEL
21st March 2008, 13:50
you make it sound so dirty


You do come out with some pointless remarks i have to say.

This is a thread on Irish Naval Service foreign trips, not imaginary Irish Naval Service foreign trips :tongue:

golden rivet
21st March 2008, 22:51
You do come out with some pointless remarks i have to say.

This is a thread on Irish Naval Service foreign trips, not imaginary Irish Naval Service foreign trips :tongue::cool:steady now he is only asking a question and his cousin could get a few pints onboard

A/TEL
22nd March 2008, 00:05
:cool:steady now he is only asking a question and his cousin could get a few pints onboard

Neg, no free beer for the civvies!!!! :biggrin:

hedgehog
22nd March 2008, 00:07
I apoligise for frivilous comments and questions

A/TEL
22nd March 2008, 00:12
I apoligise for frivilous comments and questions


Im only messin with ya boy, ask away.

As they say no question is a stupid question.:wink:

Goldie fish
22nd March 2008, 00:14
Only stupid people....

Dogwatch
25th April 2008, 00:18
L.É. EMER departed on it's Med /Black Sea Deployment today.

moggy
25th April 2008, 10:24
L.É. EMER departed on it's Med /Black Sea Deployment today.

hope they get further then aoife - whats the port's visits schedule

Dogwatch
18th May 2008, 21:49
Canadian Deployment to commence very soon.
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+L.E.Roisin/437685_800.jpg

golden rivet
19th May 2008, 14:34
Canadian Deployment to commence very soon.
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+L.E.Roisin/437685_800.jpg Nafo patrol or a jolly:confused:

Goldie fish
19th May 2008, 21:29
No such thing as a Jolly these days.

Dogwatch
30th May 2008, 21:04
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+L.E.ROISIN/650734_800.jpg

See here in Gaspé Harbour at Sandy Beach pier with HMCS ST JOHN'S in background
Official visit to Gaspé with French Navy CASSARD.

pym
31st May 2008, 00:38
Are you saying Roisin and the CASSARD travelled together?

My we're really starting to warm to the French, or the other way around maybe.

Can't get the bloody FAF alpha jets out of Baldonnel apparently :)

Dogwatch
2nd June 2008, 16:43
Another photo of P51, along with some other Navies taking part in some parade.
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+L.E.ROISIN/654540_800.jpg

HMS RICHMOND - UKRN Type 23
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+HMS+RICHMOND+F239/654562_800.jpg

HMCS Summerside - Canadian MCDV
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+HMCS+SUMMERSIDE/654577_800.jpg

FS Cassard - French DDG
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+Cassard+D614/654573_800.jpg

golden rivet
2nd June 2008, 21:41
looks an isolated berth something you would see on the crab fisherers on the bering sea

Dogwatch
2nd June 2008, 23:22
looks an isolated berth something you would see on the crab fisherers on the bering sea

http://www.tc.gc.ca/quebec/fr/ports/images_ports/gaspe.jpg

Lat. 48o49'32" N
Long. 64o26'19" W
http://www.tc.gc.ca/quebec/fr/ports/images_ports/portuaires2_e.jpg
Gaspe, at the mouth of the St Lawrence, then ROISIN goes up to Montreal & Quebec.

Fireplace
5th June 2008, 16:11
P-51 on the St.Lawrence River under the Québec bridges on June 1, 2006.

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/Ship+Photo+ROISIN++P+51/656820.jpg

gvg
19th June 2008, 09:41
According to the German navy website (http://www.marine.de/portal/a/marine/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzKODwwyB8mB2d5mIf qRcNGglFR9X4_83FR9b_0A_YLciHJHR0VFADx1_aw!/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfMjNfUVI3?yw_contentURL=%2F 01DB070000000001%2FW27FGB8A011INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp ), LÉ Aisling will be arriving in Kiel tomorrow for the Kieler Woche (http://www.marine.de/portal/a/marine/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzKODwwyB8mB2d5mIf qRcNGglFR9X4_83FR9b_0A_YLciHJHR0VFADx1_aw!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvd0ZNQUFzQUMvNElVRS82XzIzX1FNSQ!!).

gvg
20th June 2008, 09:54
LÉ Aisling (http://www.marine.de/portal/a/marine/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzKODwwyB8mB2d5mIf qRcNGglFR9X4_83FR9b_0A_YLciHJHR0VFADx1_aw!/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfMjNfUVI3?yw_contentURL=%2F 01DB070000000001%2FW27FGB8A011INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp ) should arrive in Kiel today for the Kieler Woche (http://www.marine.de/portal/a/marine/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzKODwwyB8mB2d5mIf qRcNGglFR9X4_83FR9b_0A_YLciHJHR0VFADx1_aw!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvd0ZNQUFzQUMvNElVRS82XzIzX1FNSQ!!).

Fireplace
21st June 2008, 17:03
P-51 as shown while downbound on the St.Lawrence River off Verchères on June 6, 2008. She was on her way back home from Montréal via Halifax.

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/Ship+Photo+ROISIN++P+51/667176.jpg

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/Ship+Photo+ROISIN++P+51/667172.jpg

Fireplace
23rd June 2008, 22:58
Montreal

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii134/Fireplace_01/668510.jpg?t=1214254617

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii134/Fireplace_01/668505.jpg?t=1214254677

gvg
25th June 2008, 12:28
LÉ Ciara (P42) is listed as one of the partcipants during the Belgian Naval Component 'Open Days', this weekend (28-29 June) in Zeebrugge.


http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/Kieler%20Woche/OpenShip_012Kopie640.jpg
Kieler Woche

Rooster
26th June 2008, 14:40
Hey, anyone know how I would get in contact with Trigger on the Aisling? Met him on the lash in Kiel and he was suppossed to meet for a Beer Call on FGS Bayern but the Aisling guys didn't make it, we were told they were in their racks!

golden rivet
26th June 2008, 20:42
ring the naval base and get through to aisling if it is in.. ask for trigger... hello trigger ,,,, simple

Goldie fish
26th June 2008, 21:36
Is she back from Kiel?

Rooster
27th June 2008, 15:50
No, we sailed from Kiel two days ago and the lads on Aisling said they had another few days left, not sure if she was moving to other ports or heading straight back.

Fireplace
27th June 2008, 16:29
Aisling on Kiel canal.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii134/Fireplace_01/670645.jpg?t=1214576832

The real Jack
27th June 2008, 16:41
Whats the red semicircle painted from the corner of the railings above the bridge for?

ELVIS
27th June 2008, 17:32
Whats the red semicircle painted from the corner of the railings above the bridge for?

Usually radar or radio equipment so not so good for the health to be too near

golden rivet
27th June 2008, 17:46
no one up on deck it must be a prearranged shot as we always have someone up on deck usually the cook escaping the heat of the galley

Test Pilot
27th June 2008, 19:38
Usually radar or radio equipment so not so good for the health to be too near

Spot on! That's exactly the reason. In this case it marks the area around the MF/HF TX antenna, where personell should not enter while tramsmitting.

golden rivet
28th June 2008, 14:48
it is still looking well and kiel is a test of human strength to survive the week of party time... DTs all the way home....

Test Pilot
28th June 2008, 20:54
it is still looking well and kiel is a test of human strength to survive the week of party time... DTs all the way home....

Here is CM12 in Kiel from around 1979, I think. Someone might know the exact date. Nice to see the flag being flown amongst the big boys.

Goldie fish
28th June 2008, 23:13
Is that Zinnia next to her?

Laners
29th June 2008, 19:15
Well at least the sweepers had a desent flag pole to fly the flag back then , unlike the present situation of a metal pipe .Surely something better could be produced for a ship of State to fly the flag .

gvg
29th June 2008, 22:23
Ciara in Zeebrugge.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge/LECiara.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge/LECiara2.jpg

gvg
30th June 2008, 21:05
More pics from LÉ Ciara in Zeebrugge, thanks to Willem from www.dutchfleet.net.

The hi-res pictures (and several other pictures from the ship) can be found at Willem's photo-site (http://community.webshots.com/user/willemcool101) (in the album named "Belgian Navy Days Zeebrugge, page 4 and 5).

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge2/2932883180046027110dJedoF_fs.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge2/2436514020046027110fnfFFO_fs.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge2/2933688670046027110yJexxg_fs.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge2/2969901100046027110SxNNlJ_fs.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge2/2560590090046027110luuioG_fs.jpg

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii249/ikkezzzzz/zeebrugge2/2040201020046027110JlHXRo_fs.jpg

Dogwatch
19th July 2008, 23:11
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+LE+Eithne/674894_800.jpg
The L.E. Eithne (P31) seen alongside in Belfast at the recent Belfast Maritime Festival on 28/06/08.

Fireplace
5th March 2009, 16:34
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Dogwatch
18th March 2009, 21:55
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/855728_800/Ship+Photo+LE+Roisin.jpg
Alongside HMS Belfast in London's Upper Pool 16/03/09

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/855730_800/Ship+Photo+L.E.+ROISIN.JPG

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/855733_800/Ship+Photo+L.E.+ROISIN.JPG

easyrider
17th December 2009, 10:47
Nice pics of LE Eithne visiting Philadelphia last July (from www.shipspotting.com)

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/rw/946660/Ship+Photo+LE+EITHNE.JPG

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/rw/946657/Ship+Photo+LE+EITHNE.JPG

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/rw/946655/Ship+Photo+LE+EITHNE.JPG

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/rw/944589/Ship+Photo+LE+EITHNE.jpg

http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/rw/944588/Ship+Photo+LE+EITHNE.jpg

Getting ready to party - flight decks have their uses!

rosser
24th February 2010, 08:04
Good Luck and Bon Voyage to the ships company of LE Niamh who will be departing for a 12 week deployment to South America in very early may.

I wish you all the best for the trip and really hope you enjoy the experience of a lifetime!

easyrider
24th February 2010, 11:25
Good Luck and Bon Voyage to the ships company of LE Niamh who will be departing for a 12 week deployment to South America in very early may.

I wish you all the best for the trip and really hope you enjoy the experience of a lifetime!

Headline in the Starry Sun:

"Irish Navy prepares to head south as tensions mount in the Falklands"

:biggrin:

knocker
24th February 2010, 12:44
Why is the naval service sending a ship on a foreign trip when there arent enough ships to cover their areas of responsibility in Irish waters ?

Goldie fish
24th February 2010, 15:08
Why is the naval service sending a ship on a foreign trip when there arent enough ships to cover their areas of responsibility in Irish waters ?

Who says?
The foreign trips are as much a part of the Naval Role as fishery Protection, and provide a worthwhile platform for encouraging trade in the countries being visited by Irish Enterprise.

Where did you hear of the latest trip South Rosser?

knocker
24th February 2010, 19:15
[QUOTE=Goldie fish;289991]Who says?
The foreign trips are as much a part of the Naval Role as fishery Protection, and provide a worthwhile platform for encouraging trade in the countries being visited by Irish Enterprise.

I agree that flying the flag abroad is important for trade but it wasnt it announced in december that the number of patrolling days will be cut by 200 days ?

hedgehog
24th February 2010, 19:17
How long is it for

Goldie fish
24th February 2010, 19:37
Who says?
The foreign trips are as much a part of the Naval Role as fishery Protection, and provide a worthwhile platform for encouraging trade in the countries being visited by Irish Enterprise.

I agree that flying the flag abroad is important for trade but it wasnt it announced in december that the number of patrolling days will be cut by 200 days ?

Yes, but the foreign trips are carried out whether patrol days are 200 more, or 200 less. The foreign trips do not impact on normal patrol routine in any way.

(you need to get the hang of the "quote" tabs).

Naval vessels are an extension of irish Territory, consider them like a floating embassy. Historically there has always been a large population of people with Irish Heritage in South America, and having a focal point for them goes a long way towards increasing the Profile of the Naval Service, and more importantly, the State, overseas.

Worth Noting that 2010 marks the 200th anniversary of the first National Government of Chile as well as Home Rule in Venezuela, the 25 of May revolution in Argentina,Columbian Independence, And the Bolivian War of independence continued...

So it is safe to assume that the south americans will be doing a little celebrating this year...

As for how long... I think it took Eithne 6 weeks last time, But it all depends where exactly they plan on visiting this time.

knocker
24th February 2010, 19:42
(you need to get the hang of the "quote" tabs).

Consider it done

Why not cancel the overseas resources and put them into fisheries and drug interdiction ?

Goldie fish
24th February 2010, 19:50
(you need to get the hang of the "quote" tabs).

Consider it done

Why not cancel the overseas resources and put them into fisheries and drug interdiction ?

Because the overseas trips generate revenue for the state, in real terms, by way of the Investment encouraged through use of the Vessel as a floating trade stand for Ireland. It is safe to say that the trip to Asia by L.E Niamh, resulted in much investment from there in Irish Industry.
Equally, the trip by Eithne to South America raised the Profile of Irelands capability in the area of Humanitarian relief, with the Crew of the vessel being involved in numerous projects along the way.

Indeed, one could say that the foreign trips are as useful in drug interdiction as patrolling, as it gives our Navy a chance to meet with the Authorities in the countries of source, who in turn can familiarise us with the latest tactics employed by the druglords.

knocker
24th February 2010, 19:53
So while the naval service is losing one of its ships on a trip and is down 200 patrol days , you really think its putting resources where theyre needed ?

Goldie fish
24th February 2010, 20:00
Yes. I have explained why clearly.

I don't wish to repeat myself.

It is not minus any ships, to my knowledge. One normally involved in Fisheries protection will now be engaged in other duties. 200 days less a year isn't much in the scheme of things. 1600+ days was already being achieved for the last few years. All it means is that the crews will get 25 more days a year to spend with their families. Is that such a bad thing?

hptmurphy
24th February 2010, 20:18
Remember Niamh only has room for 49 bods max. so no passengers I'm afraid.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that one if I were you,,,

damo de muff diver
24th February 2010, 20:51
Remember Niamh only has room for 49 bods max. so no passengers I'm afraid.

I am available if they need a passenger
I still know the dangerous end of a deck scrubber or any other scrubber for that matter:n:):n:):n:)

moggy
24th February 2010, 21:25
I am available if they need a passenger
I still know the dangerous end of a deck scrubber or any other scrubber for that matter:n:):n:):n:)

ha only you would say :n:)that

hptmurphy
24th February 2010, 21:31
And he doesn't take up much space..yeah bring Damo... you don't know aht your missing until you've had Damo at sea with you.

moggy
24th February 2010, 21:48
And he doesn't take up much space..yeah bring Damo... you don't know aht your missing until you've had Damo at sea with you.

goldie good to have you back = will the capt be doing a daily report like eithne
these are much sought after and make excellent pr for the navy

Laners
24th February 2010, 22:38
Would this be the first Irish Naval ship in the Pacific .

turbocalves
25th February 2010, 01:39
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/rw/944588/Ship+Photo+LE+EITHNE.jpg

Getting ready to party - flight decks have their uses!

Is it me or is that hull got a lot of dents in it?

Goldie fish
25th February 2010, 05:31
Is it me or is that hull got a lot of dents in it?

It's not you. The ships get a very heavy pounding.

damo de muff diver
25th February 2010, 14:12
And he doesn't take up much space..yeah bring Damo... you don't know aht your missing until you've had Damo at sea with you.

Yeah bring me........am only a little fella & don`t need much looking after.
Could some-one start a campaign to get me brought as I am too lazy to do it myself.
Thanks in advance...............:neek:

hptmurphy
25th February 2010, 14:37
Dear Cmdre Lynch,

If you could kindly include Damo to the invited guest list for the forth coming foreign trip to Chile.

Although retired for some years now you might remember damo for such things as pulling L/Sig Paul Newman through the vent of the cabin door the night of the ships Christmas party and then throwing him in the shower, being the DPO the night Eithnes ceremonial life belt went over the side the night of Frankie Troys 50th Birthday, sleeping through the fire of Oct 1987 on Eithne, telling the then president to **** off back up to the ward room while the president was pissed, and for breaking a sea rider engine while carrying a load of Garda and then asking them to paddle back to the ship.

Amongst his better attribues would be his wit, wicked sense of humour, charm and good looks although these may have faded a little over the years.

His dress sense has been open to question however so s suitable uniform would be required...a simple shirt a tie with suitable amount of chevrons, should be a few spare lying about due to the moratorium on promotion.

I would consider it a personal favour if you should consider my request as lest face it the place hasn't been the same without him

If your ever in hospital in kilkenny I'll fix you up witha clean bedpan in return

Your mate

HPT.


PS...he is small and doesn't take up much room..but is abit giggly when pissed.

damo de muff diver
25th February 2010, 21:22
Dear Cmdre Lynch,

If you could kindly include Damo to the invited guest list for the forth coming foreign trip to Chile.

Although retired for some years now you might remember damo for such things as pulling L/Sig Paul Newman through the vent of the cabin door the night of the ships Christmas party and then throwing him in the shower, being the DPO the night Eithnes ceremonial life belt went over the side the night of Frankie Troys 50th Birthday, sleeping through the fire of Oct 1987 on Eithne, telling the then president to **** off back up to the ward room while the president was pissed, and for breaking a sea rider engine while carrying a load of Garda and then asking them to paddle back to the ship.

Amongst his better attribues would be his wit, wicked sense of humour, charm and good looks although these may have faded a little over the years.

His dress sense has been open to question however so s suitable uniform would be required...a simple shirt a tie with suitable amount of chevrons, should be a few spare lying about due to the moratorium on promotion.

I would consider it a personal favour if you should consider my request as lest face it the place hasn't been the same without him

If your ever in hospital in kilkenny I'll fix you up witha clean bedpan in return

Your mate

HPT.


PS...he is small and doesn't take up much room..but is abit giggly when pissed.

Cheers pal........
They will have to take me now.
Will send postcards ............if I don`t get too pissed & forget:n:)

hptmurphy
25th February 2010, 22:33
I do try...but I reckon they just wouldn't be able for us old timers given we were so politically incorrect, probably cause an international incident of some sort,

I take it Frank Lynch hasn't contacted you then?

damo de muff diver
26th February 2010, 14:03
I do try...but I reckon they just wouldn't be able for us old timers given we were so politically incorrect, probably cause an international incident of some sort,

I take it Frank Lynch hasn't contacted you then?

Have bags packed & waiting by the phone.....should be any minute now
Really hope that I will be involved in a international incident....looking forward to it....:neek:

Goldie fish
26th February 2010, 14:48
Have bags packed & waiting by the phone.....should be any minute now
Really hope that I will be involved in a international incident....looking forward to it....:neek:

I'd say the delay is due to the civil servants not using phones as part of industrial action.

You may have to wait a bit more...

ZULU
26th February 2010, 16:35
Or the non-issuing of passports ! :-D:-D:-D

damo de muff diver
1st March 2010, 14:18
I'd say the delay is due to the civil servants not using phones as part of industrial action.

You may have to wait a bit more...

Not worried about waiting .......was trained in the HURRY UP & WAIT !


Or the non-issuing of passports !

Maby I can get one of the Isreali ones ... they seem to have more than enough of them

zone 1
1st March 2010, 22:44
i believe that trip down to south America is gone for this year . damo u will have to do with killybegs instead ...

Goldie fish
2nd March 2010, 01:08
There was a comment passed during the trip by Niamh to Asia that most of those who were after visiting Hong Kong and transited Suez with the Irish Naval service had yet to see the beauty of Rathmullen...

damo de muff diver
2nd March 2010, 14:08
i believe that trip down to south America is gone for this year . damo u will have to do with killybegs instead ...

Fair enough , don`t speak the language but thats never stopped me before....


to see the beauty of Rathmullen...

Would you happen to have her number........:n:) if i am going to be in that general area

Goldie fish
2nd March 2010, 19:24
i believe that trip down to south America is gone for this year . damo u will have to do with killybegs instead ...

Beginning to look unlikely.

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/euro500k-cost-of-south-american-naval-trip-under-fire-113429.html

zone 1
2nd March 2010, 19:44
ill eat my words goldie ... better of putting that money to a new ship

moggy
2nd March 2010, 21:36
ill eat my words goldie ... better of putting that money to a new ship

thanks goldie thats it end of story

golden rivet
3rd March 2010, 23:21
fine gael says its a waste of money.. has cowen said anything yet.... the crew are in limbo at the moment... flanagan from fine gael as that fellow called it a BOAT he has to be reprimanded....

blaisec
3rd March 2010, 23:39
Bombard Bernard Allens office with letters of protest, and let him know that he is fcuking with other peoples personal lives, while trying to score political advantage. Fcuking Blue Shirt!!

Goldie fish
3rd March 2010, 23:56
His arguement actually holds no weight. The South American trip is just as important to the state as Fisheries protection, and probably costs less...

DeV
4th March 2010, 09:18
If it could improves business, employment etc why is it a waste of money?

Having said that would it be cheaper to rent a convention centre (not necessarily!)?

hptmurphy
4th March 2010, 14:16
Fine Gael are clueless hwen it comes to Naval Related matters, the NS is still carrying the scars from sucessive fine gael administrations.

Foreign trips are part of the job.

I don't always agree with the venue or the ship sent or even the increased work load they cause but if you have a Navy you use it.

Isn't it odd that the venue also happens to be the country building one of the newer OPVs we profiled here. I wonder are they going to have a peek at the finished product before making their minds up?

yooklid
4th March 2010, 15:31
Tell them we're sending Enda's Hospital Ship.

ias
4th March 2010, 15:31
Well said HPT!

Savings in excess of €500K are probably already made in the payroll bill this year due to the fact that the DF are under the 10,000 establishment.

The benefits to the coutry's image and to NS training I'm sure are sizeable from these trips and it is really disappointing to see such comments from the current opposition, makes you ask what they'll do if/when they are in government.

Goldie fish
4th March 2010, 17:23
*123. To ask the Minister for Defence the estimated cost of sending the LE Niamh to
South America for twelve weeks between May and July 2010 coinciding with the 200th
anniversary of South American independence; and if he will make a statement on the
matter. — Jimmy Deenihan. [10992/10]

Unfortunately the Good men and women of the Dept of Defence are unable to deal with his query.

Goldie fish
4th March 2010, 17:23
Tell them we're sending Enda's Hospital Ship.

Good idea. We could help in the Chilean Earthquake relief work.

timhorgan
4th March 2010, 19:05
Good idea. We could help in the Chilean Earthquake relief work.

I am sure there will be a great welcome in Chile from

Admiral O'Reilly of the Armada de Chile




http://www.armada.cl/prontus_armada/site/artic/20090709/pags/20090709101555.html


It would be a disgrace if this trip was cancelled.
Not least because we will want to invite all our South American friends to Ireland in 2016.


Tim Horgan

Goldie fish
4th March 2010, 19:09
Indeed, there has been a great working relationship built up over the years, indeed clearly from the latest Chilean OPVs, they have taken on board our experiences and implemented them in their vessels.

It would be a shame to cancel the trip purely on a narrow minded, penny pinching basis. It appears Mr Allen etc wants us to return to the NS of the 60s and 70s, when a foreign trip would be lucky to reach Liverpool, or even Iceland!

Marnealach
4th March 2010, 20:25
Indeed, there has been a great working relationship built up over the years, indeed clearly from the latest Chilean OPVs, they have taken on board our experiences and implemented them in their vessels.

It would be a shame to cancel the trip purely on a narrow minded, penny pinching basis. It appears Mr Allen etc wants us to return to the NS of the 60s and 70s, when a foreign trip would be lucky to reach Liverpool, or even Iceland!

Some of us remember when a trip to Barry, in Wales for ammo. was considered a foreign trip

yooklid
4th March 2010, 22:27
But aren't Fine Gael supposed to save us from everything? Including ourselves?

hptmurphy
4th March 2010, 23:13
Some of us remember when a trip to Barry, in Wales for ammo. was considered a foreign trip

Which could only be topped off by the attempt at a fireworks display by setting fire to the engine room on the way back.

zone 1
4th March 2010, 23:21
may be I'm wrong but have FG ever got the navy any ships while in power . don't think so . foreign trips while at sea are used for alot of exercises while moving between ports at sea

Goldie fish
5th March 2010, 02:08
may be I'm wrong but have FG ever got the navy any ships while in power . don't think so . foreign trips while at sea are used for alot of exercises while moving between ports at sea

I don't think you can attribute that to policy, just bad luck. Roisin was ordered by a FG government, but delivered under a FF one.

GoneToTheCanner
5th March 2010, 12:22
Wasn't it alleged, in the time of FOCNS Deasy(90-93), that they enjoyed a better level of co-op from FG because he was the brother of an FG minister?.......apart from that, this trip, no matter how well it serves the NS in giving genuine blue-water practise to the crew, will always be percieved as a junket, because the reality is that the people who will go out to promote trade will fly there to make deals and sign agreements, which has nothing of consequence to do with the NS.
regards
GttC

ZULU
5th March 2010, 14:43
I am sure there will be a great welcome in Chile from

Admiral O'Reilly of the Armada de Chile




http://www.armada.cl/prontus_armada/site/artic/20090709/pags/20090709101555.html


It would be a disgrace if this trip was cancelled.
Not least because we will want to invite all our South American friends to Ireland in 2016.


Tim Horgan

I love it.

Maria Ignacia O'Reilly,
Enrique O'Reilly
Sybil O'Reilly
Joaquin O'Reilly.

Goldie fish
5th March 2010, 14:47
I love it.

Maria Ignacia O'Reilly,
Enrique O'Reilly
Sybil O'Reilly
Joaquin O'Reilly.

People in glasshouses...;)

ZULU
5th March 2010, 14:53
Not mocking. Its good to see multiculturalism in full effect.

I'm still trying to get over the nickname given to me when I was born, with the inspiration coming from a Kerry Footballer.

The shame! :-D:-D:-D

Bravo20
5th March 2010, 16:29
Wasn't it alleged, in the time of FOCNS Deasy(90-93), that they enjoyed a better level of co-op from FG because he was the brother of an FG minister

GttC

That may be so but Fianna Fail were in government during that period.

Goldie fish
5th March 2010, 17:21
123. Deputy Jimmy Deenihan asked the Minister for Defence the estimated cost of sending the LE Niamh to South America for 12 weeks between May and July 2010 coinciding with the 200th anniversary of South American independence; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [10992/10]

Taoiseach and Minister for Defence (Deputy Brian Cowen): Foreign deployments are decided by the Minister for Defence in consultation with the Department of Foreign Affairs. Each year, the Naval Service commits approximately 85-90 of its annual patrol days to foreign deployments. Locations are considered on the basis of the optimum yield that can be derived for Ireland. This year Mexico, Argentina, Colombia and Chile all celebrate their bicentenary of independence and a visit to these locations has been agreed. This visit will replace a number of shorter foreign deployments that had originally been proposed.

The unique status of Naval vessels under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) affords the State an ideal opportunity to give Ireland a distinctive presence overseas. An Irish naval vessel is considered sovereign Irish territory regardless of its location, and therefore a ship affords rare promotional opportunities for state agencies such as Enterprise Ireland, An Bord Bia and the IDA to support Irish industry and services. In the current economic climate, promoting Ireland to business communities abroad has assumed added importance.

It is anticipated that the South American deployment will provide a unique opportunity to highlight the fact that Ireland is open for business. Over many years there have been strong cultural and heritage links between Ireland and South America. Mexico is Ireland’s twentieth largest trading partner and a number of major Irish companies provide employment to thousands of Mexicans. Since the middle of the last century there has been political cooperation between Mexico and Ireland in relation to the international issue of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. There are well documented military links between the independence movement in South America and Irish born people. In Argentina, the eighth largest country in the world, half a million people claim Irish descent. This is the largest such group outside of the English speaking world. Argentine national hero, Admiral William Brown, founder of the Argentine Navy, was born in Foxford, Co. Mayo.

My Department and the Naval Service are working closely with the Department of Foreign Affairs, Enterprise Ireland and other State authorities to ensure that maximum economic benefit is derived from this visit. The itinerary has not yet been finalised and therefore it is not possible to inform the Deputy of the total costs to be incurred. When final costings are available I will forward them to the Deputy.

As already stated, the patrol days included in this visit will be drawn from the existing patrol day allocation for overseas visits. As such, there should be no diminution of service with regard to effective patrolling activity. The Naval Service will continue to meet all taskings assigned to them.

timhorgan
5th March 2010, 17:28
123. Deputy Jimmy Deenihan asked the Minister for Defence the estimated cost of sending the LE Niamh to South America for 12 weeks between May and July 2010 coinciding with the 200th anniversary of South American independence; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [10992/10]

Taoiseach and Minister for Defence (Deputy Brian Cowen): Foreign deployments are decided by the Minister for Defence in consultation with the Department of Foreign Affairs. Each year, the Naval Service commits approximately 85-90 of its annual patrol days to foreign deployments. Locations are considered on the basis of the optimum yield that can be derived for Ireland. This year Mexico, Argentina, Colombia and Chile all celebrate their bicentenary of independence and a visit to these locations has been agreed. This visit will replace a number of shorter foreign deployments that had originally been proposed.

The unique status of Naval vessels under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) affords the State an ideal opportunity to give Ireland a distinctive presence overseas. An Irish naval vessel is considered sovereign Irish territory regardless of its location, and therefore a ship affords rare promotional opportunities for state agencies such as Enterprise Ireland, An Bord Bia and the IDA to support Irish industry and services. In the current economic climate, promoting Ireland to business communities abroad has assumed added importance.

It is anticipated that the South American deployment will provide a unique opportunity to highlight the fact that Ireland is open for business. Over many years there have been strong cultural and heritage links between Ireland and South America. Mexico is Ireland’s twentieth largest trading partner and a number of major Irish companies provide employment to thousands of Mexicans. Since the middle of the last century there has been political cooperation between Mexico and Ireland in relation to the international issue of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. There are well documented military links between the independence movement in South America and Irish born people. In Argentina, the eighth largest country in the world, half a million people claim Irish descent. This is the largest such group outside of the English speaking world. Argentine national hero, Admiral William Brown, founder of the Argentine Navy, was born in Foxford, Co. Mayo.

My Department and the Naval Service are working closely with the Department of Foreign Affairs, Enterprise Ireland and other State authorities to ensure that maximum economic benefit is derived from this visit. The itinerary has not yet been finalised and therefore it is not possible to inform the Deputy of the total costs to be incurred. When final costings are available I will forward them to the Deputy.

As already stated, the patrol days included in this visit will be drawn from the existing patrol day allocation for overseas visits. As such, there should be no diminution of service with regard to effective patrolling activity. The Naval Service will continue to meet all taskings assigned to them.

Hear,Hear!!

zone 1
5th March 2010, 17:50
at the end of the day FG be quit its going to happen . for such a small navy we get around

golden rivet
5th March 2010, 22:26
at the end of the day FG be quit its going to happen . for such a small navy we get around well said any time our crews went anywhere we promoted ireland better by 100% than any tourist brochure can do by being good ambassadors in our own way

easyrider
6th March 2010, 17:01
If LE Niamh can be spared from home duties for up to 3 months, would it not be better to deploy her to work on something like anti-piracy work with the EU force off Somalia, rather than a diplomatic/trade cruise to South America?

zone 1
6th March 2010, 17:20
why not but i really cant see that happing just yet it would be a great way for the NS to work with other navy

golden rivet
6th March 2010, 19:40
If LE Niamh can be spared from home duties for up to 3 months, would it not be better to deploy her to work on something like anti-piracy work with the EU force off Somalia, rather than a diplomatic/trade cruise to South America? im sure that would need eu sanction and it would probably cost more with no financial returns.. but would be good experience in a different role

zone 1
6th March 2010, 19:56
there's too much involved for us i mean in a logistic way lads finding a base to work out of plus a crew down there and so on pity it would be a great experience for our navy to be involved in such a mission . NO lads fishery is the name of the game us

Goldie fish
7th March 2010, 11:57
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/player_av.html?0,null,200,http://dynamic.rte.ie/quickaxs/209-r1-drivetime.smil

It was discussed on Drivetime the other day. Skip to 2hrs 05mins.

zone 1
7th March 2010, 12:49
FG talking true there arse again first of all according to them we have a hospital ship in a previous debate and now we only have 2 patrol boats as they call them they need to sit down for a few minutes and do some research before they go shouting there mouths off .......

Goldie fish
7th March 2010, 13:18
They were talking about the customs boats, he added they were backed up by the Naval Service... but to those not familiar with the NS, it was easy to think he was talking about the Naval Service.

easyrider
7th March 2010, 13:18
there's too much involved for us i mean in a logistic way lads finding a base to work out of plus a crew down there and so on pity it would be a great experience for our navy to be involved in such a mission . NO lads fishery is the name of the game us

Isn't Djibouti the logistics base for the EU ships? I think there are some Irish personnel already working in the Force HQ in Northwood in the UK.

The NS could probably do with having a supply ship though, a mobile base and support vessel.

zone 1
7th March 2010, 13:40
problems straight away supply and support vessels we would need some other navy to help us out there not a major problem can be done and yes true we do have personal in england

Goldie fish
7th March 2010, 13:53
I'd say its a politicial thing, rather than a logistic one. The South American trip is finite, whereas to continue in anti piracy patrols would require rotating ships and crew to theater indefinitely.

Marius
7th March 2010, 15:30
I think you need helo capacity to do that job right. Our ships as currently armed, could certainly protect themselves against the likes of those guys, but protecting somebody else? Most interceptions mentioned in the piracy thread seem to involve use of the helo. And unfortunately, the NS don't do helos!

zone 1
7th March 2010, 16:01
the swedes are down there patrolling with ships without heli capacity they seem to be coping OK

easyrider
7th March 2010, 19:39
Speaking of supply ships, naval helicopters, and South America.... some good pics here:
http://www.alide.com.br/joomla/index.php/component/content/article/80-edicao-42/452-o-frankfurt-am-main-e-a-forcatarefa-alema-no-atlantico

zone 1
7th March 2010, 23:39
ye top job easyrider good shoots

Killiano NS
12th March 2010, 21:45
im wondering does anyone know what other trips are planned for this year, im in the NSR and hoping to get on one if I can

Laners
13th March 2010, 13:18
im wondering does anyone know what other trips are planned for this year, im in the NSR and hoping to get on one if I can

How about a four week west coast patrol with a weekend in Rathmullen thrown in .

Goldie fish
13th March 2010, 18:11
If you are in the NSR, you don't need to ask here...

zone 1
13th March 2010, 19:10
security

Killiano NS
14th March 2010, 14:43
If you are in the NSR, you don't need to ask here...

Trust me I have asked in my unit!!!

I want to go to sea anyway, foreign trip would be a bonus, if not, im not too bothered as long as i get on a patrol

Killiano NS
22nd March 2010, 01:42
no one up on deck it must be a prearranged shot as we always have someone up on deck usually the cook escaping the heat of the galley

regards the pic of the aisling on the 3rd page of this thread, theres a guy lying down on the focsle, just for'ard of the gun hes lying fore to aft in his no.2's and has his hat on his chest...
see him???

hptmurphy
22nd March 2010, 21:59
Obviously you haven't been around ships and sailors much....you can kip anywhere if you try hard enough.

Steering flat was always one of my favourites

Goldie fish
22nd March 2010, 23:37
Captains chair while on anchor watch was my favourite...

er...

golden rivet
23rd March 2010, 11:24
anywhere but not at anchor as this is high risk time for a ship

Goldie fish
23rd March 2010, 19:14
When you are anchored next to Hamburgs Largest Nuclear power plant, what's the worst that could happen...

Killiano NS
25th March 2010, 21:37
Obviously you haven't been around ships and sailors much....you can kip anywhere if you try hard enough.

Steering flat was always one of my favourites

my point is that someone said there was nobody on deck....
not that sailors can kip anywhere and btw i have been around ships and sailors thanks....

i found the helmsmans chair quite comfy i must say...

Goldie fish
26th March 2010, 02:46
Helmsmen have chairs nowdays?

What next... Women on ships?

Killiano NS
27th March 2010, 18:13
Helmsmen have chairs nowdays?

What next... Women on ships?

Those too... have you been in haulbowline or aboard an NS ship lately??

Goldie fish
28th March 2010, 02:40
Those too... have you been in haulbowline or aboard an NS ship lately??

Haul...Bowline.... doesn't ring any bells...:rolleyes:

You know, off topic, the word "Gullible" is not found in any dictionary.

Killiano NS
28th March 2010, 22:36
in what context am i being referred to as gullible?
off topic of course...

Goldie fish
29th March 2010, 02:39
Give up sunshine. You are out of your depth.
I was In Haulbowline last just 2 weeks ago. In block 6.

Slug1
29th March 2010, 03:09
Give up sunshine. You are out of your depth.
I was In Haulbowline last just 2 weeks ago. In block 6.

Don't need salt for my chips when you're around, eh? :n:)

Goldie fish
29th March 2010, 12:50
I eat salt for breakfast...

No.. wait... er

hptmurphy
29th March 2010, 14:33
my point is that someone said there was nobody on deck


Could have been Lunch time. Have a look at most photographs of ships at sea, its very rare to see people above decks, unless engaged in something such as boarding or maintainence or sunbathing as the case maybe .

Depending on the watch you are on for a patrol you may never see the upper decks of a ship.

Whats the point in going outside ..its not as if the view is that good......two hundred miles off the west coast your hardly going to be looking at the trees!

There are parties on board ships that have no actual reason to be above decks while at sea and take that to heart and never seen.

Women on ships..surely you jest...what has the navy come to..next we'll be suggesting that the world is round.

Killiano NS
29th March 2010, 15:09
Could have been Lunch time. Have a look at most photographs of ships at sea, its very rare to see people above decks, unless engaged in something such as boarding or maintainence or sunbathing as the case maybe .

Depending on the watch you are on for a patrol you may never see the upper decks of a ship.

Whats the point in going outside ..its not as if the view is that good......two hundred miles off the west coast your hardly going to be looking at the trees!

There are parties on board ships that have no actual reason to be above decks while at sea and take that to heart and never seen.

Women on ships..surely you jest...what has the navy come to..next we'll be suggesting that the world is round.

true true!! no point in being on deck most of the time anyway, especially if your a non smoker
kiel canal though- something to look at round there.
round?? what?? no.... not at all

zone 1
29th March 2010, 23:35
true true!! no point in being on deck most of the time anyway, especially if your a non smoker
kiel canal though- something to look at round there.
round?? what?? no.... not at all

I'm a non smoker and i go up on deck occasionally well often. as my job is below decks false light and air con u need fresh air . does it make a difference if some one is lying down good only knows that person could have been on harbour stations for along period of time ????????

hptmurphy
29th March 2010, 23:41
Point of thread lost...

Killiano NS
30th March 2010, 15:51
I'm a non smoker and i go up on deck occasionally well often. as my job is below decks false light and air con u need fresh air . does it make a difference if some one is lying down good only knows that person could have been on harbour stations for along period of time ????????

im not criticising the guy for lying down! i was merely pointing him out... you may well be right...
but murph is right- strayed far off topic

Goldie fish
3rd May 2010, 15:41
Patrol ship on diplomatic mission
Sunday Independent
Sunday May 02 2010

One of the country's top Naval Service patrol ships will set sail on Monday on a 10-week trade and diplomatic mission to Latin America.

The 47-strong crew of the LE Niamh will embark on an extensive programme of charity work, meetings and marketing events designed to strengthen links and promote Ireland.

The visit will see the vessel dock in Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Veracruz on the Mexican Gulf coast before its final stop in Miami.

The first port of call will be Rio de Janeiro in Brazil on May 15, where the ship's company will be using their technical expertise and considerable muscle to help build a new centre for disadvantaged children. The crew will also be bringing toys, clothes and books donated to support the Irish Government-sponsored project.

Just over a week later, the 78m-long ship will dock in the Argentinian capital Buenos Aires. The trip, coinciding with the bicentennial of the country's independence from Spain, will see the LE Niamh take pride of place in a special celebratory flotilla.

"There's the diplomatic role, the humanitarian role, the economic role and the chance to celebrate the 200th anniversary of Latin American independence," Naval Service Lieutenant Commander Terry Ward said.

"We're recognising the many Irish people involved in that achievement including Admiral William Brown, the father of the Argentine Navy."

After stopping at the Chilean ports of Punta Arenas and Valparaiso the boat will become the first Irish vessel to transit the Panama Canal. The LE Niamh will then will sail to Veracruz for a series of meetings and events to encourage trade.

The ship will leave its final destination Miami after taking part in the US independence celebrations on July 4.

Commissioned almost a decade ago, the LE Niamh is the newest vessel in the Irish Naval Service fleet. In 2002 the ship undertook another trade mission to Asia in conjunction with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Enterprise Ireland.

Press Association

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/patrol-ship-on-diplomatic-mission-2162096.html

I wonder will Niamh leave AIS on for the trip so we can follow her progress?
Will there be a captains diary like the now historic blog kept by Eithne's skipper when she headed to South America?
Most importantly, what media coverage will the trip get?

A/TEL
3rd May 2010, 15:45
I wonder will Niamh leave AIS on for the trip so we can follow her progress?
Will there be a captains diary like the now historic blog kept by Eithne's skipper when she headed to South America?
Most importantly, what media coverage will the trip get?


Diary being kept by CO on Facebook page

As for AIS doubt it

Goldie fish
3rd May 2010, 15:49
His own facebook page or the DFPO one?

EDIT: Found it.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=37&post=257&uid=116814641672104#!/photo.php?pid=172927&id=116814641672104&fbid=118083044878597

Great use of media by the NS. Always way ahead.

Goldie fish
3rd May 2010, 23:20
Paschal Sheehy, Southern Editor, reports that the newest ship in the Irish fleet has departed for South America, where it will support Ireland's trade links with the continent

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0503/6news_av.html?2747063,null,230

Good man Plastic. Its a bit annoying to hear Niamh, at 9 years being described as the Newest ship of the fleet. Youngest would be a more appropriate word.

Goldie fish
5th May 2010, 10:18
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs548.ash1/31995_388223009086_741894086_4110559_2623974_n.jpg

First exotic location coming up.

Goldie fish
9th May 2010, 12:36
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs656.snc3/32409_389205439086_741894086_4127879_705990_n.jpg

20N. Equator getting closer. Niamh's second time over.

Goldie fish
16th May 2010, 14:18
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs327.snc3/28972_419630153435_673703435_5441699_6080803_n.jpg


L.É. NIAMH has arrived at the Port of Rio de Janeiro. Sharon Lennon, Second Secretary at the Embassy of Ireland in Brasília, was there to greet the ship. Part of the Rio / Niterói bridge (14 km) can be seen in the background of the photo below.

Does anyone else think there was a coup by DFPO, to prevent the Captain of Niamh from acting alone in maintaining a Blog? DFPO works mon-fri(barely) meaning we have no live updates at weekends. If Niamh has been allowed continue her own facebook blog instead of the bullshite excuse about being outside satellite coverage, we may have a far more interesting, and more human account of events, instead of the sanitised version released by dfpo, between DFHQ tea breaks.

hedgehog
16th May 2010, 14:24
Our Navy sails half way around the world and they send the second secretary to meet them

where the fcuk was the Ambassador or even the first secretary/ charge d affaires

golden rivet
16th May 2010, 14:27
hopefully they are reading this as it is a disgrace about what they release and as you say done during tea breaks by the army who really have no interest about the good work the ship is doing...lets hope things improve....

DeV
16th May 2010, 16:18
DFPO have benefitted greatly from the use of Facebook etc and they keep it very up to date.

Goldie fish
16th May 2010, 19:02
DFPO have benefitted greatly from the use of Facebook etc and they keep it very up to date.

Except at weekends and bank holidays.. Because as we all know nothing happens on bank hols or weekends.
If they had let the job to the Ships skipper, who created the page on a long weekend while the DFPO was in bed, there would be a daily record.

It is quite an achievement for a Naval vessel to be beyond satellite range................

hptmurphy
16th May 2010, 22:42
Definetely a Hijack job by the DFPO. We only get to see what they want us to see.

Bullshit excuse... given Eithne had a daily blog on her South American trip...and then there was the DVD that showed all the good bits.

The crew introduction by the OC was a nice touch, and should have been continued as it was.

What were the DFPO afraid of?

A mere naval officer could out do the whole publicity machine of the DFPO by using facebook....

Goldie fish
17th May 2010, 01:37
Empires to protect... can't be havin the NS gaining a higher profile than the Army...

timhorgan
17th May 2010, 11:02
[
QUOTE=Goldie fish;301841]Empires to protect... can't be havin the NS gaining a higher profile than the Army...[/QUOTE]

I had a great evening in Castletownbere a few years ago when The Sullivans was visiting and I thought then that the Army could have participated more.

easyrider
18th May 2010, 13:27
From The Sunday Times, March 14, 2010

"Ministry of Defence sinks navy’s cocktail parties

Cocktail parties hosted by Royal Navy commanders visiting foreign ports, a mainstay of British naval tradition since the time of Lord Nelson, are to be scrapped in an effort to save money.

Navy chiefs are said to be furious over the demise of the tradition, which helps cement good relations for the UK across the globe.

The relatively small cost of each cocktail party — estimated to be around £1,000 as alcohol served on board a navy vessel is exempt from tax — is minor compared with the £36 billion military budget that the Ministry of Defence is struggling to bring under control.

It is estimated that scrapping the much-loved “Cockers P”, as the parties are known in navy jargon, could save the MoD between £50,000 and £70,000. An MoD spokesman said: “Royal Navy warships organise official receptions in order to build and maintain relationships and international relationships while on official port visits. We are asking commanding officers not to hold these receptions when on routine business to make savings in the financially difficult times.”

One senior commander said: “It’s a damn shame that this important tool in British diplomacy is being discarded. We call these receptions ‘soft power’ because we are taking a bit of British foreign policy to an official reception in a foreign territory. It does wonders for international relations and trade.”

A party due to be held on the destroyer HMS York when it docked in the Falkland Islands two weeks ago was reportedly cancelled at the last minute as part of the cuts. Another cocktail party on board a warship at Simon’s Town, South Africa, was cancelled after the MoD refused funding.

In future, expenditure on cocktail parties will be officially sanctioned only for visits from high-ranking VIPs such as the Queen and senior navy officers, including the first sea lord.

In one notorious, but less formal, incident Ronnie Biggs, the Great Train Robber, was invited on board the frigate HMS Danae as it docked in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil in the late 1970s. The fugitive enjoyed a tipple with a number of drunken sailors only to walk off the ship with impunity even though he was a wanted man in the UK."


Couldn't happen here, could it?

danno
19th May 2010, 21:41
The Niamh came up breifly on ais clearing Rio at c 13.51Z .Given that she is on a courtesy passage can anyone suggest a reason as why the ais is on rx mode only?

golden rivet
19th May 2010, 22:24
The Niamh came up breifly on ais clearing Rio at c 13.51Z .Given that she is on a courtesy passage can anyone suggest a reason as why the ais is on rx mode only?
dont tell the army that or they will keep that a secret too and realease her trip details in 30 years time:biggrin::biggrin:

hedgehog
19th May 2010, 22:34
Pardon my sea faring ignorance

but does the vessel cross the equator

or is it like flying from Dublin to New York via New Foundland ( a geat arc)

Jetjock
20th May 2010, 01:26
Hi Hedge,

No way to go from the Southern Hemisphere to the Northern Hemisphere without crossing the equator :) Its an impossibility.

If you are interested in the reason for flying great circle tracks(apologies if you are already aware) take a look here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_circle

Put simply, under normal conventions the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. But if the two points are on a spherical object, ie the Earth, the shortest distance between them is actually an arc.

DeV
20th May 2010, 01:28
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4156717&op=2&o=global&view=global&subj=113075552062996&id=741894086


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4142964&op=2&o=global&view=global&subj=113075552062996&id=741894086

- the horizontal line in the middle of the pciture is the Equator

Goldie fish
25th May 2010, 13:51
Today is 25May, or Vientecinco de Mayo, National Holiday in most of South america.

L.E. Niamh is in Buenos Aires today, no doubt in the middle of the Argentinian National Holiday "Día de la Revolución de Mayo".

No access to Facebook here unfortunately, so I can't see if the DFPO have added any more information or photos of todays events.

ZULU
25th May 2010, 14:08
Nothing yet on Facebook

golden rivet
25th May 2010, 21:28
suprise suprise

Goldie fish
26th May 2010, 11:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdqYCQB5yAM

yooklid
26th May 2010, 18:31
That officer needs to put a bit more into the drill movements.

Goldie fish
26th May 2010, 18:41
To be fair, space is a bit confined there, and she has been accustomed to working on a moving deck and wearing workboots up to that point.
The changeover to stable deck and wedge heels could take a while to get used to.. or so I'm told.

Goldie fish
2nd June 2010, 17:42
I see by Twitter that L.E Niamh has become the first Irish Naval Vessel to traverse the Magellan Straits.

Goldie fish
2nd June 2010, 21:41
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Anyone for a greasy fry?

hptmurphy
2nd June 2010, 22:51
Doing ceremonial like that on aconfined space in court shoes ona asteel painted deck...not the easiest thing . Probably should have been done on the quay wall if protocol would allow.

She did ok, the dignitaries were happy enough.. the piping party is the one the like best being piped about, nice little touch. Onces thats done well thats the main thing,

Good out well done all concerned.

hptmurphy
2nd June 2010, 22:58
Will the greasy fry have chips and runny eggs.....its only rough when you can't have the afore mentioned and soup and sandwiches and bread under the plate to keep your dinner from your lap

Goldie fish
16th June 2010, 18:24
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Not far from Panama Canal now.

http://www.acp.gob.pa/eng/photo/camera-java.html
Live webcams.

easyrider
17th June 2010, 12:40
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Anyone for a greasy fry?

Rough seas? Bit of a swell, that's all.

Goldie fish
30th June 2010, 02:05
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hedgehog
30th June 2010, 09:50
Will the jolly jack tars get some type of commerative medal for this,

the reason I ask is ;

this is an epic voyage for the Irish Naval Service- there are so many firsts

Equator- Panama Canal etc

they should rightly be recognised in some way other than a mingi t shirt.

Flintstone
30th June 2010, 22:06
Nice thought HH but I think that a guy or gal who put in a few years patrolling in the Atlantic might be more deserving of a gong.
BTW, not the first of our ships across the Equator

Goldie fish
1st July 2010, 12:08
She is the first to cross, but not this time round.

golden rivet
1st July 2010, 12:34
endless people have tried to get recognition for patrols to unifil etc but without sucess it is a case i think if we dont get them ye wont

Goldie fish
1st July 2010, 13:52
There was a commemorative coin/badge of sorts struck for Eithne's Argentina trip. I am lucky to have one in my posession.
It is based on the Ships crest and bore a figure of Guillermo Brown in one half.
Nice little momento.

danno
4th July 2010, 15:49
Looks like they made Miami safely.

Goldie fish
12th July 2010, 14:09
Current estimates see L.E.Niamh returning to Cork early Thursday Morning.
By all accounts looking at the facebook page, they are in for a very warm welcome from Family members.
Never before has the NS been in a position where some of the crews mammies can follow their every move when on a foreign trip.
It really makes the NS more family friendly in this wrapped in cotton wool society.

Changing times, and great to see the NS(and the DFPO moving with them). Some may say "it wasn't like that in my day" etc. But if things didn't change with time, the NS would still have messdecks, and soup kitchens would be a growth industry.

Goldie fish
14th July 2010, 17:24
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0714/naval.html

mikeym
14th July 2010, 20:21
Id say all of the crew just want to get off the ship and go home. Thats how most of the eithne lads felt back in 2006.

hedgehog
14th July 2010, 20:30
Well done to the sea hags

they should be met with all the works

band- chief- families and speeches

I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea

mikeym
14th July 2010, 20:41
I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea

I agree pity the top brass dont get the finger out!

Tempest
15th July 2010, 20:51
A medal for doing the job you signed up to?

ZULU
17th July 2010, 11:33
Never knew so many of my old buddies from school were in the Naval service. Met two of them that I hadn't seen in years. They were on the Niamh. Great work lads!

Must dig out that old class photo, I reckon there's 10+ out of a class of 30 that are serving with the DF now (either PDF or RDF)

golden rivet
17th July 2010, 12:46
A medal for doing the job you signed up to?

if you are military you should know that....whats the point or suggestion in your question

Tempest
18th July 2010, 01:19
if you are military you should know that....whats the point or suggestion in your question

Originally Posted by hedgehog

I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea

There was no point or suggestion apart from the admittedly facetious "A medal for doing the job you signed up to?"

What next, a medal for artillery people's time spent in the Glen, a medal for an EOD officer's time spent studying explosives.....

Service is service, and kudos for that, and you have medals for that. Air sea or land.

golden rivet
18th July 2010, 18:14
do you spend 11 weeks in the glen...... the point is if the defence forces did not have un missions every one with a bit of service would have only one medal....that would look good...

mikeym
19th July 2010, 17:08
A medal for doing the job you signed up to?

Try doing a 2 year sea rotation and then say there should be no need for a medal for so many years spent at sea.

Over the years servicemen and officers have got Dsms and they were only doing the job they signed up to literally.

golden rivet
20th July 2010, 00:57
back to you tempest

hptmurphy
20th July 2010, 16:46
I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea


Elitism.

ZULU
20th July 2010, 19:39
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Tempest
20th July 2010, 21:28
Re DSM's being awarded, they are awarded for actions which are exceptional to routine work. Hence the DSMs for naval service personnel who have acted exceptionally in fire and rescue situations. Ditto for Air Corps crew who have been awarded DSMs for rescues which were at or beyond the limit of what would be considered do-able. However, Air Corps personnel do not receive medals simply for performing routine flying duties, will they start asking for medals if Naval personnel become eligible for some kind of 'days at sea' medal? It opens a pandoras box which the department would be loathe to have happen.

I do accept that some DF personnel feel they have limited opportunities to be awarded medals, but that's just the nature of a small, neutral military who do not knowingly put their service people into front-line situations. If you want to win medals for soldiering, you've not picked a great employer in the DF. Not being cynical at all, or trying to start an argument with anyone here, just realistic.

DeV
27th March 2011, 23:58
Maybe the NS should look at a high profile foreign deployment every couple of year!, here would be 2 possible examples:

1. The Med
Resupply Irish troops with UNIFIL
Participate in UNIFIL naval deployment
Support for Enterprise Ireland (could include visits to Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Turkey etc)

2. The Indian Ocean
Resupply Irish troops with UNIFIL
Participate in UNIFIL / EU NAVFOR naval deployment
Support for Enterprise Ireland (could include visits to the above, plus Egypt, Saudi, Djibouti, Kenya, Tanzania, India etc)

There is a cost factor but by bring in the resupply to UNIFIL and participate in UN mandated naval deployments (as well as supporting Enterprise Ireland) it should make good reading in a cost benefit
analysis.

Connaught Stranger
28th March 2011, 10:54
I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea

Just had a chat with my buddy Enda from Castlebar,

its all sorted, and will be issued immediately after the

"Time spent on the Border" Medal. \:)|

Connaught Stranger.:biggrin:

B Inman
28th March 2011, 12:08
Just had a chat with my buddy Enda from Castlebar,

its all sorted, and will be issued immediately after the

"Time spent on the Border" Medal. \:)|

Connaught Stranger.:biggrin:

Sign me up for that one!

hedgehog
28th March 2011, 16:46
What has held us back as a Nation and as a Defence Forces has been the sheer

begrudgery- The NS are out in all weathers at all times and although they very rarely ask for

anything in return- I seriously think a sea going medal should also be given to them.

In the grand scheme of things it would cost feck all and it would show the appreciation of a Nation

that the boys deserve.

Goldie fish
28th March 2011, 17:12
I would disagree with a medal, but there should be some recognition of seatime, similar to the sleeve service bars worn by USN ratings.
One for each rotation to sea.
If nothing else it would expose those in the navy who avoid going to sea..

danno
2nd June 2012, 21:11
Any PVs doing the Baltic to coincide with the footie?

golden rivet
3rd June 2012, 06:19
Any PVs doing the Baltic to coincide with the footie? im sure a few navy guys would love if you could send this to the commodore of the service for his urgent attention:n:):n:)

danno
3rd June 2012, 10:13
im sure a few navy guys would love if you could send this to the commodore of the service for his urgent attention:n:):n:)

With a bit of forethought the NS could have deployed to the Baltic for manouvers with the Bundsmarine as a feature of the Aus/Ger BG.

The Count of Monty Christo
9th September 2012, 03:38
I surgested this to Commander Jim Robinson in the early nineties, Six resupply trips would constitute a trip plus medal award. He put pen to paper addressed to FOCNS J.J. Kavanagh, he just filed it away. It was a very impressive letter. At least he tryed!