New tender for heavy recovery vehicles. Never fails to amaze me at the cost for these types of machines.
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A vital piece of equipment, particularly for overseas missions Like Chad. It'd not like you can give the AA a call.
Many of the current recovery vehicles are quite old. I'm pretty sure S Brigade has a 93 truck with a Holmes Wrecker. The Wrecker itself was taken off a Bedford which had been bought sometime in the 70s. Many of the Tow vehicles are quite limited by their axle weights too. I'm sure the transport people here will know more.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Just because there is a recession doesn't mean that the DF will stop purchasing, they will just prioritise & possibly order in reduced quantities etc.
This contract is for two 8x8 Euro 4 recovery vehicles with trailers. They will probably be DROPS type vehicles with the option for armour on cab. They are for recovering 4x4 TCVs, DROPS, MOWAGs, LTAVs & 6x6 TCVs.
Current I think there is only 1 Astra DROPS recovery vehicle in service with the DF, the is a few wreckers that could recover the 4x4 TCVs plus "the Beast" (MAN 6x6, not sure if it is still in service) but it can't recover DROPs or MOWAGs as far as I know.
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Well Dev you are just about correct with your with your assessment of wreckers but these are for off road recovery. The are rarely actually used for the purpose that they were designed for.
Normal recovery is done using the bevertail or the lowloader depending on the size of the vehicle being recovered.
There is nothing wrong with mounting the recovery equipment onto a new vehicle. Unless there is a requirement to send these vehicles overseas, which I can't see being the case, they will be white elephants.Without supplies no army is brave.
—Frederick the Great,
Instructions to his Generals, 1747
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Originally posted by DeV View PostThis contract is for two 8x8 Euro 4 recovery vehicles with trailers..."Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
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Originally posted by luchi View PostWell Dev you are just about correct with your with your assessment of wreckers but these are for off road recovery. The are rarely actually used for the purpose that they were designed for.
Normal recovery is done using the bevertail or the lowloader depending on the size of the vehicle being recovered.
There is nothing wrong with mounting the recovery equipment onto a new vehicle. Unless there is a requirement to send these vehicles overseas, which I can't see being the case, they will be white elephants.
With hundreds of vehicles overseas, they'll hardly be white elephants.
here is something the british have ordered from MANLast edited by paul g; 2 May 2009, 17:00.
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Cheers Paul, that answers the query I had above regarding the nature of the tenderLast edited by Truck Driver; 2 May 2009, 17:08."Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
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Originally posted by Tadpole View PostEuro 4 compliance is desirable not essential.
Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostA Holmes Wrecker? Jesus, they were ancient when I was in!
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GttC
Originally posted by DeV View PostYou are correct of course luchi, presuming the bevertail/lowloader can recover the larger vehicles (MOWAGs & DROPS).
Overseas - hence the armour option
Are any of the DROPS in use in Chad plated?
Originally posted by paul g View PostWith hundreds of vehicles overseas, they'll hardly be white elephants.
Although these vehicles may have the capability for use over seas doesn't mean they will ever go.
Actually, considering the length of time these tenders take this could easily be canned.Last edited by luchi; 2 May 2009, 23:07.Without supplies no army is brave.
—Frederick the Great,
Instructions to his Generals, 1747
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Originally posted by luchi View PostNot necessarily really, how many vehicles were bought with the ability to armour but never bought the plates to armour?
Actually, considering the length of time these tenders take this could easily be canned.
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Originally posted by turbocalves View Postis that 2.5 - 3 million or am i seeing things?
Don't forget that the contract also includes training, manuals and an initial supply of parts for the first 5 years ( I know it's not exactly clear, but this is a standard clause in DF vehicle procurement ), along with 2 diagnostic systems.
The Truck itself will probably be a small part of the total for each vehicle, by my count there are 3 winches, one crane and a recovery boom, along with a fit out of recovery tools, to include separate fitting for each type of vehicle in our fleet. Thats a lot of very expensive hydraulics & tools to put on one vehicle! That's before you even factor in the cost of the trailers.
All in all if they get them for €2.5m they'll be doing well, but someone will probably want this contract to just keep them going while times are hardLast edited by REX; 2 May 2009, 23:56.CRIME SCENE INSTIGATOR
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