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Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Postdid they actually turn them off and stay there or did they just abandon them and run away?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead
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Originally posted by Victor View PostYou mean do a Dunkirk?
www.google.com/search/French%Military%VictoriesAttached FilesLast edited by RoyalGreenJacket; 14 January 2011, 05:26.
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Before anyone starts sneering the French, I suggest you research how many Germans they killed, how many tanks they destroyed, how many Luftwaffe aircraft they shot down before they threw in the towel.You'll find that it was quite a lot. They gave the Germans a hard time, especially with artillery and the Blitzkrieg wasn't the overwhelming force that has been suggested. It was fast, certainly, but most of the German Army was horse-drawn or went on foot, which was no better than the French. I'd be very loathe to criticize them.
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In the UK, WW1 started in 1914 and ended in 1918, WW2 started in 1939 and ended in 1945.
In France, WW1 started in 1871 with Alsace Lorraine being annexed by Germany. It ended in 1919 when they got the region back.(Visit the Musee de L'Armee sometime- very different version of history).
WW2 started for them too in 1939, but they were Occupied by Nazi Germany until 1944, with half of the nation the Free French, fighting the Nazis daily up to, and after D Day. In the period between Dunkirk and Normandy, the french fought a superior army daily, while the British Army waited at home, catching their breath...
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostIn the period between Dunkirk and Normandy, the french fought a superior army daily, while the British Army waited at home, catching their breath...
However, for some information about France and the French that the US gave it's troops at the end of WW2, look here: 112 Gripes About The FrenchLast edited by Flamingo; 14 January 2011, 12:33.'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Postdidn't know, don't care, but well done.
The French fought at Dunkirk alongside the British, and then provided the final rearguard that allowed for the last of the BEF to be evacuated.
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Is there really going to be a pissing match on who fought the hardest during WW2? Seriously grow the **** up,it was 6 years of horrific bloodshed that affected the entire world with over 60 million dead,representing nearly every nation on the planet.NOBODY had an easy time during those years so just lock the page or talk about the Lebanon.
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The concept of the French as cowards dates largely to 2003 and their refusal to assist in the inasion of Iraq, when they were considered cowards in some quarters for thinking that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction and that that the inasion would create a mess( rememer freedom fries).
What ever you think of them, they were right not to get involved in that cluster f^%K.Last edited by paul g; 14 January 2011, 21:33.
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Originally posted by easyrider View PostWhy do you say "don't care"? That sounds like you've made up your mind and you're not going to listen to any info. to the contrary. Isn't there a word for that, 'bigot' maybe?
Originally posted by Jetjock View PostI think RGJ's "dont know, don't care" comment was a move to avoid the pissing match that has developed.
Things were going so nicely here for a few days...
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The total French casualty figures (military and civilian) for both world wars exceed 2.2 million. The British total was in excess of 1.4 million.
Anyone who has travelled in rural France cannot but be immensely saddened at the many memorials commemorating the huge loss of life. Many of the memorials use the sad description of the young servicemen and women killed as "children of this village- children of this town".
France has strong and positive historical ties with Ireland and both nations and peoples have a certain understanding and mutual respect for each other.
Vive La France! Vive La Republique!
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