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Jack.s
2nd September 2012, 15:08
Does the NS allow it's officers to cross train in foreign naval colleges and do degrees abroad? For example, doing a navy EOD course in the U.S or doing a law degree in the U.K.

DeV
2nd September 2012, 15:23
Before the NMCI, they used to do the RN International Sub-lieutenants course.

Not sure if the NS now run their own clearance divers course (ie EOD) courses or if they still go to the UK, but either way there are limited places.

Bear in mind the NS Basic Divers Course is one of the hardest in the DF.

DeV
2nd September 2012, 15:26
But I'd say the chances of doing something like law in the UK are nil seeing that there are plenty of universities that do law here.

Goldie fish
2nd September 2012, 18:05
Foreign Naval officers frequently train with the Irish NS. There was a female officer cadet in the last class from NZ I think(she wore a Navy curl in any event, and there has been other KIWIs here in the past.

Jack.s
2nd September 2012, 22:35
Thanks for the info, I know for a fact there are Royal Canadian Navy officers do their training on Irish navy Patrol vessels.

hptmurphy
3rd September 2012, 13:36
I know for a fact there are Royal Canadian Navy officers do their training on Irish navy Patrol vessels.

Some of their training......

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 18:55
Well a decent chunk of it.... their watchkeeping as far as I know? Could be wrong.
I'd want to do a Navy EOD course or maybe a naval aviation course in the U.S.

midnight oil
3rd September 2012, 19:01
I'd want to do a Navy EOD course or maybe a naval aviation course in the U.S.

Then don't join the Naval Service

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 19:38
Well who is going to fly the Navy's new UAV's on the new patrol vessels?

midnight oil
3rd September 2012, 20:07
Well who is going to fly the Navy's new UAV's on the new patrol vessels?

Someone that has done a UAV operators course. Not someone that has done what you describe as a naval aviation course. Sounds like you plan on joining the cast of Pensacola Wings of Gold

You do realise that the NS has neither aircraft nor aircraft carriers don't you? The helipad on the stern of the Eithne does not make it an aircraft carrier.

As for the Naval EOD course, very much a cream of the crop skill set. Not something you get after a week long course

Goldie fish
3rd September 2012, 20:22
Jack.s You are either a very poor WUM, or have your head in the clouds. You are starting to sound like a very poor wum on the dreaded boards.ie.
You want to join the coastguard before, and after your career as a naval aviator.

Get A Grip.
I'm bored with you now.

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 20:49
Just trying to keep my options open is all, doesn't neccesarily mean I will join the coastguard. UAV operators are actually qualified pilots, and who better to train our pilots until we have the capability ourselves than some of the best pilots in the world, the U.S Navy. And I'm very much aware about the EOD course, just because it's difficult doesn't deter me from trying my best to pass it. As for "Pensacola Wings of Gold" I've never seen it.

Goldie fish
3rd September 2012, 21:16
Well I hate to burst your bubble but to become an Officer Candidate in the USN you have to be a US Citizen. You must also have a four-year BS or BA degree from an accredited university and have strong grades.
You are well off on the UAV operator in this states DF. They are not pilots.


Mods. Do we have to tolerate these WUMS?

DeV
3rd September 2012, 21:17
Well who is going to fly the Navy's new UAV's on the new patrol vessels?
Well the Artillery fly them on land.


Just trying to keep my options open is all, doesn't neccesarily mean I will join the coastguard. UAV operators are actually qualified pilots, and who better to train our pilots until we have the capability ourselves than some of the best pilots in the world, the U.S Navy. And I'm very much aware about the EOD course, just because it's difficult doesn't deter me from trying my best to pass it. As for "Pensacola Wings of Gold" I've never seen it.

AFAIK UAV Oprs in the DF aren't pilots.

There are some in the RN too I'm sure.

Goldie fish
3rd September 2012, 21:20
Someone is telling porky pies here I think.


See the thing is I'm also in the coastguard as a volunteer and I should have all my STCW'95 basic training done so if thats the only problem with transferring to the NSR I should be ok?

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?20351-RDF-Transfer&p=368860&viewfull=1#post368860

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 21:26
Someone is telling porky pies here I think.



http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?20351-RDF-Transfer&p=368860&viewfull=1#post368860

I was at the time, but it was unfortunately a temporary placement.

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 21:30
Well I hate to burst your bubble but to become an Officer Candidate in the USN you have to be a US Citizen. You must also have a four-year BS or BA degree from an accredited university and have strong grades.
You are well off on the UAV operator in this states DF. They are not pilots.


Mods. Do we have to tolerate these WUMS?
I want to join the NS, as for the USN I could apply for that too, I have dual citizenship.

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 21:32
Well the Artillery fly them on land.



AFAIK UAV Oprs in the DF aren't pilots.

There are some in the RN too I'm sure.

You could be right, I'm just going on the USAF and USN model of qualified pilots operating UAV's.

hptmurphy
3rd September 2012, 21:34
Well who is going to fly the Navy's new UAV's on the new patrol vessels?



Lol if your small enough to fly An uav, you won't pass the medical:n:)

midnight oil
3rd September 2012, 21:52
UAV operators are actually qualified pilots.

Yes, in much the same way as people that play Medal of Honor are soldiers and people that use remote control cars are all qualified drivers.

If you want to discuss some of the intricacies of joining the NS and the roles that various people are able to perform I suggest that you contact the Manpower Officer, details can be found here (http://www.military.ie/careers/naval-service). They should be able to clear up any issues that you have and ensure that you receive correct answers to any questions you may have.

Hope that this helps

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 21:58
Yes, in much the same way as people that play Medal of Honor are soldiers and people that use remote control cars are all qualified drivers.

If you want to discuss some of the intricacies of joining the NS and the roles that various people are able to perform I suggest that you contact the Manpower Officer, details can be found here (http://www.military.ie/careers/naval-service). They should be able to clear up any issues that you have and ensure that you receive correct answers to any questions you may have.

Hope that this helps
Nice wordplay but you're still missing the fact that UAV operators in many Air Forces and navies are in fact qualified pilots, including but not limited to the USN and USAF.
I will enquire with them, however the NS facebook page operators did confirm that officers were able to go on military courses in countries such as the U.S

danno
3rd September 2012, 22:08
The NS will hardly seek that only officers can operate the UAVs.

midnight oil
3rd September 2012, 22:11
In the Arty, you need an officer to command the UAV detachment AFAIK. The detachment consists of 4 pers to operate the craft. No idea what is going to be involved in the event of the NS getting UAVs though as they can be anything from a couple of feet long to the size of a full plane depending on what they get

Jack.s
3rd September 2012, 22:47
I'm not sure of the class of UAV they are getting, but I would think they would operate on a system of officers and NCOs fly the craft, and other ranks service it... could be wrong it all depends.

Goldie fish
4th September 2012, 00:56
I'm not sure of the class of UAV they are getting, but I would think they would operate on a system of officers and NCOs fly the craft, and other ranks service it... could be wrong it all depends.

You are.

FMolloy
4th September 2012, 11:34
The other forces that have officers flying UAVs did so in order to provide jobs for the boys & to allow said officers to maintain pilot status. There's no other reason for it.

Able
4th September 2012, 17:15
if your small enough to fly An uav, you won't pass the medical:n:)

He could pass the medical, but there's no way he is passing the hight req:n:):):)

Rhodes
13th May 2013, 22:22
I seen this picture on Facebook of a Canadian Officer taken onboard LE Aisling.

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7123&d=1368479848

danno
13th May 2013, 22:24
White glove inspection no doubt.

Jack.s
13th May 2013, 22:29
Canadian and Irish Officers have a training exchange programme alright!

hptmurphy
14th May 2013, 11:21
Forst.

Goldie fish
26th August 2013, 12:17
From Facebook:

Over the passed 12 months S/Lt Shane Mulcahy under went the Mine Clearance Diver Course with the Royal Canadian Navy at the Fleet Diving Unit Pacific, in Canada. This course was hugely demanding both physically and mentally on all students.

During this course S/Lt Mulcahy learned various methods for 'making safe' different types of mines, including deploying from a helicopter to approach a mine floating at the surface. He did Surface Supplied diving, which involved breathing mixed gas fed through a hose from the surface down to the diver at depths of up to 100 meters. This was a very technical phase on the course and required teamwork and trust amongst the students. During this training the students conducted underwater welding, cutting, use of hydraulic tools, and ended with a salvage project, recovering a sunken 40 foot fishing vessel.

S/Lt Mulcahy was presented with the top student award by the Deputy Commander Canadian Fleet Pacific, Captain Bradley Peats. The Naval Service congratulate S/Lt Mulcahy on his superb performance on this course and look forward to his return to the Naval Service Diving Section.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.509526652463569.1073741897.101764433239795&type=3

DeV
26th August 2013, 13:01
Wonder why the NS have moved away from the RN

pym
26th August 2013, 13:03
Wonder why the NS have moved away from the RN

Have they?

Was the relationship with the Canadian Navy born out of the Chicoutimi incident, or has it been going on longer?

GoneToTheCanner
26th August 2013, 14:12
Hi there
Somebody find that guy in the photograph, using the compass, a helmet that fits. It's less useful than a chocolate teapot as it is.

regards
GttC

hedgehog
26th August 2013, 16:54
What's a Navy Curl?

Great to see our Navy sharing their knowledge and experience with others, and great to see lads heading to foreign Navies to do courses-

Goldie fish
27th August 2013, 03:35
What's a Navy Curl?

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This is a navy curl, also known as Nelson's Curl.

ancientmariner
11th March 2018, 08:40
What's a Navy Curl?

Great to see our Navy sharing their knowledge and experience with others, and great to see lads heading to foreign Navies to do courses-

According to latest promo from An Cosantoir , there is a Cadet exchange between NS and USN. Very useful to them as our system is centered around practical navigation, boarding, identification, and interception.

na grohmití
11th March 2018, 09:03
It is a very Naval focused issue this month, covering the appointment of a new FOCNS, as well as a piece on the anniversary of the Tragic loss if LS Michael Quinn, the award of DSMs for the seizure of Dances with Waves.
The exchange with the USN is interesting. The cadets operate aboard the USNA YP boats. Each 30m vessel has a crew of 4 officers, 6 Rates and 30 trainees. They have a range of 6 days or 1680NM. The boats usually travel ant train in company with other vessels of type.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/14/143170305.jpg