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Slacker
29th January 2004, 02:08
Alright, we've had the FCA list, what should a budding naval reservist bring with him/her to Haulbowline for the week?

Vice Admiral
29th January 2004, 03:02
Below is the text from a list I hand out to recruits pre recruit training course.

Note to all current NSR personnel: The term "camp" is an army term and is not to be used henceforth.


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What to bring:
Every single piece of uniform you have been issued with.
A small padlock and two keys.
Hangars
Flip-flops
Shoe polish (Black (Kiwi or Nugget)), an old toothbrush and a soft cloth
Nail clippers
Runners (or Tackies as they are known in Limerick)
Training gear, i.e. shorts, t-shirts and tracksuits
An old tracksuit (For firefighting)
As many socks and as much under-wear as you can carry
Soap (post firefighting, unless you like the three day mascara effect)
washing gear and shaving gear
Washing powder
2 Towels (min)
Needle and thread (Black and white)
Sleeping bag and pillowcase
Civilian clothing (for going out at night)
Swimming attire
A torch
Paper, pens, markers
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NSR recruit courses are "Dry", there is no drinking while you are a recruit so hangover cures are NOT required.

Goldie fish
29th January 2004, 05:32
Proper order too.

morpheus
29th January 2004, 12:53
Any chance you have a link to that army recruit camp list?? ive searched and cant find it :(

-thanks-

Western Commando
29th January 2004, 13:40
NSR recruit courses are "Dry", there is no drinking while you are a recruit so hangover cures are NOT required How does it affect the camp? Wish the FCA had the balls to do the same.....

Goldie fish
29th January 2004, 14:41
It has been a policy in NS since the early days to have all ships "dry" when at sea. Carrying this rule to shore for recruits is easy to follow.Its a culture that already is accepted by most members,especially those who run the Bar.
Not so in the DPM wearers though.Up to recently in the RDF it was impossible to enforce such a rule,as the bar staff would be uncooperative at best.These days the best you can do is envorce a strict policy of No ID,No Alcohol.

However i know of one camp which imposed strict Hours for the mess,with the result that local Off Licences made a killing.

Goldie fish
29th January 2004, 14:46
Originally posted by Vice Admiral
Below is the text from a list I hand out to recruits pre recruit training course.

Note to all current NSR personnel: The term "camp" is an army term and is not to be used henceforth.




What is it called then?

Slacker
29th January 2004, 15:58
WTF? Most of our NCOs call it camp, and many of them refer to the tarmac outside the door as the "main deck" for parade purposes.

So what is it supposed to be called?

Sluggie
29th January 2004, 20:47
The correct title is now Recruit Course. Vice Admiral is leading a campaign to stamp out honky words like "camp".

I fear he may find that old habits die very hard.

FMolloy
29th January 2004, 21:21
Honky?

Goldie fish
29th January 2004, 22:02
The fact is "camp" perfectly describes most of Vice admirals activities....

Honkey is a sluggie term for those who wear the DPM

Slacker
29th January 2004, 23:57
Sluggie, got a few more words I can call DPM-mers? Have a pair of cpl freinds who won't stop calling me salty, fishy, you name it........

Now I mean DPM specific, not just calling them sheep-s**gers or w**kers (which, I pain to point out, is NOT my general opinion of......of.......honkys!) :-patriot: :-patriot:

Vice Admiral
30th January 2004, 00:53
My blood boils when I hear someone in blue saying that word, it sounds like a boy scouts jamboree or a cake sale.

It may take 10 years to get the word out of common usage but by god i'll die trying.

As for having no alcohol on the course, it's easy. All the recruits are just that - recruits. They have never been away with the NSR before so they don't know the difference. There are no A/B's there and a bare minimum of NCO's and Officers - who can of course partake of a couple of tasty beverages of an evening.

It would almost be harder to allow them to drink, the NS nearly always have recruits on the base now, how could we allow our recruits into the Mess and the NS recruits have to stay in the Dry canteen?

Sluggie
30th January 2004, 01:23
The term "sandbag " has been popular for manys the year.

Goldie fish
30th January 2004, 04:30
Careful now.

macca
2nd February 2004, 14:06
NSR recruit courses are "Dry", there is no drinking while you are a recruit so hangover cures are NOT required
no drinking in the mess maybe, but the launch always provides welcome relief. The dry course for recruits is only a new idea in the last couple of years anyway. You can drink away at sea once at anchor leading to certain ships acquiring the title of "floating pub".

{Nautical phrases edited by Moderator to please the pedantic brigade}

Joshua
2nd February 2004, 21:07
Originally posted by morpheus
Any chance you have a link to that army recruit camp list?

http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1160&highlight=recruit+camp

Regards etc

Harry
2nd February 2004, 21:54
FCA Recruit camps have been dry in 11Bn for two years

Farel'
3rd February 2004, 04:32
Whats the story with Knives for recruit training? Is the state issuing them yet? Opinel used to be the best for ropework,but I have seen leatherman and Gerber in use a lot lately.

Vice Admiral
5th February 2004, 02:12
The stores will not issue rigging kits as yet to us, the cost is prohibitive at approx 50.
Some buy their own. A rigging kit has three tools,
1. A knife, this knife has no tip - it is rounded so it is harder to stab yourself, your lifejacket or the searider. It's blade is approx 100mm long 25mm broad.
2. A pliars
3. A marlinspike.
I know someone is going to ask so;
A marlinspike is a steel rod about 180mm long with a flattened end that has a long eye or opening in it. Designed for splicing where it is used much like a needle and also untying siezed knots it finds hundreds of other uses from opening tins of paint to punching holes in things that need holes punched in them.
The three are worn in one leather scabbard around the waist or over the shoulder if in a typhoon suit.

It's half the price af a leatherman and will last for decades.

The Opinel and leatherman are IMHO next to useless because they require 2 handed operation. When you REALLY need your knife you need it very fast and you're usually hanging onto something at the time.

Do not bring non-issue knives to the base during your recruits course, they are prohibited as a rule because this gives carte blanche to any nutter to bring any collection of cutlery they want to.

morpheus
5th February 2004, 10:04
thanks for the army recruit link!

Slacker
5th February 2004, 13:39
Damn, here's me with a Victorinox Skipper knife, and I can't bring it......oh well.