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    Lads just watchen sky news seems that 3 royal navy craft have been seised for being in iranian waters all crew have been arrested it doesnt look like this is bullshit

  • #2
    from yahoo:




    I assume the iranians are well pleased with their major victory over the illustrious RN
    When I breeze into that city, people gonna stoop and bow.
    All them women gonna make me, teach 'em what they don't know how

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    • #3


      IRAN-UK NAVAL DISPUTE

      Iran has reportedly seized three Royal Navy vessels that entered its territorial waters and arrested eight British sailors.

      Arab-language satellite news channel Al-Alam said the seacraft had been detained near the Iraqi border.

      Iranian naval sources told the offcial station: "The Iranian navy has confiscated three British boats that entered Iranian territorial waters... arresting the crew of eight people.

      "On the boats they found weapons and maps."

      The station said the crew had confessed to making "a mistake" and that the three vessels had been confiscated by the Iranian navy.

      The confrontation was said to have taken place in the Shatt al Arab stretch of water between Iraq and Iran.

      Sky News' Foreign Editor Tim Marshall said: "Iran is making a point to Britain probably, and that point is 'back off'."

      A spokesman for the British Ministry of Defence said it was investigating the reports.

      Royal Navy boats patrol the waterway - a highly disputed boundary between Iraq and Iraq - to prevent smuggling.
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      • #4
        Iran-uk Naval Dispute

        IRAN-UK NAVAL DISPUTE
        (From Sky News)
        http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...140060,00.html

        Iran has reportedly seized three Royal Navy vessels that entered its territorial waters and arrested eight British sailors.

        Arab-language satellite news channel Al-Alam said the seacraft had been detained near the Iraqi border.

        Iranian naval sources told the offcial station: "The Iranian navy has confiscated three British boats that entered Iranian territorial waters... arresting the crew of eight people.

        "On the boats they found weapons and maps."

        The station said the crew had confessed to making "a mistake" and that the three vessels had been confiscated by the Iranian navy.

        The confrontation was said to have taken place in the Shatt al Arab stretch of water between Iraq and Iran.

        Sky News' Foreign Editor Tim Marshall said: "Iran is making a point to Britain probably, and that point is 'back off'."

        A spokesman for the British Ministry of Defence said it was investigating the reports.

        Royal Navy boats patrol the waterway - a highly disputed boundary between Iraq and Iraq - to prevent smuggling.
        "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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        • #5
          Anyone know what class of craft they were? RIB's?
          "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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          • #6



            From Euronews: (Follow Link for Video)

            http://www.euronews.net/create_html....&option=2,info

            Crisis looms between Iran and Britain over SBS capture

            First pictures have arrived of the Special Boat Service troops captured and being held in custody by Iran. Tehran says the men and three boats were detected early Monday morning in Iranian waters, in the Shaat El-Arab, and eight men were arrested. The Royal Navy says the force was helping Iraqi river police crackdown on lawlessness, particularly smuggling goods of all kinds into Iraq, and was delivering a boat when the crews were detained:

            "We don't know the exact details of the situation and it would be inappropriate of me to comment or speculate on exactly what happened. But obviously we hope, we are quite sure, we hope that the situation will be resolved quickly and amicably," said Royal Navy spokesman Ian Clooney.

            It is the most serious border incident with Iran since the Iraq invasion in March 2003.

            The arrests coincide with a worsening of relations following the IAEA's recent report criticising parts of the Iranian's supposedly peaceful nuclear research programme.
            "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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            • #7


              frame grab taken from Iranian television shows what are believed to be four of the eight British crew members detained by Iran after their boats were seized on a waterway between Iran and Iraq. Iran seized three British naval boats on June 21, 2004, which it said had entered its waters near the Iraqi border, and arrested eight British crew. REUTERS/Al Alam via Reuters TV

              Iran to prosecute Royal Navy crew - Iran TV

              From:Reuters
              Tuesday, 22 June, 2004


              By Paul Hughes

              TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will prosecute eight British sailors seized after apparently straying into Iranian waters on the Iraqi border, Iran's al Alam television says.

              The British Foreign Office immediately demanded an explanation from Tehran on the report. British officials have not been given access to the men, detained on Monday with their three boats, and have not been told where they are being held.

              Quoting unnamed Iranian military sources, al Alam said the eight men were to be prosecuted on charges of "illegally entering Iran's waters".

              "The British military officials were arrested after they entered 1,000 metres into Iranian waters. The British confessed that they were arrested when they were inside Iran's waters," it added.

              The incident -- the latest in a string of boat seizures in the Gulf area by Iran's Revolutionary Guards -- is the most serious between Iran and foreign forces operating in Iraq and is likely to complicate already difficult relations between Tehran and London.

              A Foreign Office spokesman in London said British officials were "trying to get the Iranians to explain" the report on prosecuting the men. "They have got to come up with some answers to our questions and we are pressing them for answers," he said.

              Britain's Foreign Secretary Jack Straw spoke by telephone with his Iranian counterpart Kamal Kharrazi on Tuesday morning.

              NO WORD ON POSSIBLE RELEASE

              The Foreign Office declined to give any details of the talks and could not say whether there had any been any progress on getting the Britons released.

              A spokeswoman for the British Embassy in Tehran said British diplomats had requested permission to visit the detained men.

              "We have asked for full details on who is holding them, where they are and for access to them," she said.

              Al Alam broadcast footage on Tuesday showing the eight British men dressed in military fatigues sitting in a room.

              It said their small patrol boats contained weapons, cameras for spying and detailed maps of areas in Iraq and Iran. None of the Britons spoke during the broadcast.

              Iran's Foreign Ministry has said the men are being interrogated to ascertain why they entered Iranian waters. Tehran has given no indication of when they may be released.

              The incident occurred in the Shatt al-Arab, a narrow waterway that separates southwestern Iran from Iraq.

              Britain's Defence Ministry said the Britons had been in the area to help train Iraqi security forces and had been delivering a small craft to the Iraqi Riverine Patrol Service when arrested. The boats had been carrying only the sailors' personal weapons, it said.

              Revolutionary Guards spokesman Massoud Jazaeri told Reuters on Monday Iran was determined to defend its territory.

              "Anyone from any nationality entering our waters will face the same response," he said.

              Iran's Revolutionary Guards, a branch of the armed forces charged with defending Iran's Islamic revolution, earlier this month seized some eight fishing vessels from the United Arab Emirates in a tit-for-tat measure after the Emirates detained an Iranian boat which had strayed into its waters.
              "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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              • #8

                Sailors shown on Iranian TV

                From Sky News:
                http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...135982,00.html

                SAILORS FACE PROSECUTION

                Britain has been promised "personal" action by Iran, which reportedly intends to prosecute eight British sailors for straying into Iranian territorial waters close to the Iraqi border.

                Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has spoken to his opposite number, Iranian foreign minister Kamal Kharazzi, and was promised he would look into the matter.


                Iranian state television Al-Alam reported that the sailors, who were detained Monday and whose three boats were seized by Iranian Revolutionary Guards, had already "confessed" to having entered Iranian waters.

                Britain says the men were from the Navy's training team, delivering a boat from the southern Iraqi port of Umm Qsar to Basra when the incident happened.

                The three small patrol boats they were using were unarmed but the sailors were carrying personal weapons, defence chiefs said.

                The incident on the Shatt al Arab Waterway which divides Iran from Iraq comes at a delicate time in British-Iranian relations following a report from the UN nuclear watchdog which is critical of Tehran.

                Iranian reports claimed weapons and maps were found on board the vessels and suggested the sailors were special forces
                "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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                • #9
                  The Irish Times Breaking News

                  Sorry, we've looked high and low, as we say here in Ireland and there's not a sign of that page. Why not go back to the homepage to find something else?


                  World Tuesday, June 22, 2004

                  Iran to charge eight British sailors - report
                  Last updated: 22-06-04, 09:01


                  Iran will prosecute eight British sailors held overnight along with their three boats after apparently straying into Iranian waters near the Iraqi border, Iran's state-run al Alam television said this morning.

                  The incident - the latest in a string of boat seizures in the Gulf area by Iran's Revolutionary Guards - was the most serious between Iran and foreign forces operating in Iraq and.

                  "Iran intends to prosecute the eight British detainees on charges of illegally entering Iran's waters," al Alam reported, citing unnamed Iranian military sources.

                  "The British military officials were arrested after they entered 1,000 metres into Iranian waters. The British confessed that they were arrested when they were inside Iran's waters."

                  A British government spokeswoman said Britain's Foreign Secretary Jack Straw spoke by telephone with his Iranian counterpart, Mr Kamal Kharrazi, about the seizure of the British vessels and crew.

                  She declined to give any details of the talks and could not say whether there had any been any progress on getting the Britons released.

                  A spokeswoman for the British Embassy in Tehran said British diplomats had requested permission to visit the detained men.

                  © 2004 ireland.com

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                  • #10
                    Sure aren't they used to doing incursions on Carlingford Lough for years...


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • #11
                      DELAY IN SOLDIERS' RELEASE
                      From Sky News : http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13136418,00.html


                      British troops are made to parade for the camera


                      Prisoners were blindfolded and spoke on TV

                      A decision on the release of eight British Royal Navy servicemen held in Iran has been delayed until Thursday, Iranian TV has now reported.

                      That is despite reports earlier today that the men had already been released.


                      The situation has remained fluid through the day.

                      Iranian TV said the delay in releasing the group was because it would take longer for a delegation to reach the men.

                      The report went on to say the equipment carried by the troops would remain in Iranian custody.

                      The men were arrested on Tuesday after their patrol boats apparently strayed into Iranian territorial waters close to the Iraq border.

                      The crisis had appeared to escalate when the men were paraded blindfolded on state-run television. Iranian authorities said the men would be freed if it was established they did not enter Iranian waters deliberately.

                      According to the ISNA news agency, the sailors had admitted making a "mistake".

                      Further television pictures were then shown two of the captured men - not blindfolded - apparently confessing to the intrusion into Iranian waters and apologising for the incident.

                      The two sailors filmed "confessing" they had strayed into Iranian waters gave their names as Thomas Harkins and Chief Petty Officer Robert Webster.

                      It later emerged Mr Webster is a Royal Navy reservist who has worked for 17 years at Newcastle airport as a firefighter.

                      He is married with two children and lives in Newcastle.

                      Another of the detainees was identified as 26-year-old Royal Marine Chris Monan, of Marske, Cleveland.

                      Foreign Secretary Jack Straw intervened personally with his Iranian counterpart, Kamal Kharazzi, to appeal for the men's release
                      "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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                      • #12
                        Unlike our lads...the RN don't get to wear blue combats...


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • #13


                          A frame grab taken from Iranian television shows what are believed to be British patrol boats detained by Iran on June 21, 2004, with eight British naval personnel on a waterway between Iran and Iraq. The servicemen will be be freed on Wednesday, Prime Minister Tony Blair's official spokesman told reporters on Wednesday. REUTERS/Al Alam via Reuters TV
                          "Dwight D. Eisenhower: The best morale exists when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear it it's usually lousy.

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                          • #14
                            What about the Iraqis they were training?


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • #15
                              I thought it said thsat they were taking a new boat to the iraqis for training.
                              What about the boats and equipment?
                              "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
                              "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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