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    HMS Richmond is due in Cork this weekend.



    07/02/05
    Huge British frigate to pay a visit to Cork

    By Peter Levy
    ONE of the largest ships in the British Royal Navy is to call to Cork on Thursday to commemorate a tragedy which took place in Cork Harbour 100 years ago.

    The frigate, HMS Richmond, is to berth at the city’s North Custom House Quay.

    Security is expected to be tight for the arrival of the ship. Royal Navy vessels have docked before, but this is the largest ship to call to Cork for some time.

    The tragedy being commemorated took place when six men were killed on one of the earliest submarines which was being tested off Haulbowline on February 16, 1905.

    John Gregory, secretary of the Royal Naval Association in Cork, said that the accident off Haulbowline, which was then the main British naval base in Ireland, took place when the submarine was being refuelled.




    “A spark from an electric fan used to vent the submarine set off an explosion,” he said.

    Of the six men killed, five are buried in Cobh and one man, an officer, was buried in England.

    A joint commemoration, involving members of the Irish Naval Service and the Royal Navy, will take place at the Old Clonmel Cemetery in Cobh.

    A commemorative dinner takes place on Friday at the Rochestown Park Hotel.

    A church service follows at Christchurch, Rushbrooke, at 9.45am on Sunday, followed by the wreath-laying ceremony in the Old Clonmel Cemetery in Cobh.

    Present will be the Lord Mayor of Cork, Cllr Sean Martin, a representative from the British Embassy and representatives from the Irish Defence Forces.

    The Irish Naval Service has donated a granite block which will be carved into a memorial for the event.

    The submarine A5 was one of the first to be built for the Royal Navy, based on the design of the inventor of the modern submarine, Co Clare man John P Holland.

    HMS Richmond is one of 16 ships that are the mainstay of Britain’s modern surface fleet.



    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Goldie fish
    HMS Richmond is due in Cork this weekend.
    Will it be open to the public? where and when?

    ONE of the largest ships in the British Royal Navy is to call to Cork on....
    The type 23s are nowhere near being the largest.

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    • #3
      Ok genius ...what was the biggest RN warship to visit Cork......besides the Type 42s milling around during the NS celebration in 1996...HMS Manchester
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      • #4
        Originally posted by hptmurphy
        Ok genius ...what was the biggest RN warship to visit Cork......besides the Type 42s milling around during the NS celebration in 1996...HMS Manchester
        The article said that the HMS Richmond was one of the largest ships in the British Navy. That is what I commented on. I did not mention Cork. However the HMS Manchester is FAR bigger than a type 23 and HMS Argus dwarfs the 2 of them.

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        • #5
          No doubt the usual brain-dead Provo supporters will be out protesting....

          Is the crew going to have interpreters to translate the local dialect into proper English, like biy????
          "Hello, Good Evening and Bollocks..."

          Roger Mellie

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          • #6
            Security is quite tight for this visit. I'll enquire in the morning about opening times.

            Does the visit of RFA Argus count as an RN visit,the RFA ships are not crewed by the RN? Pre 1938 many RN vessels much larger than either of the above visited on a regular basis....

            Provo protesters will think twice about protesting at RN visits following their failed attempt to board HMS Manchester some years ago. I doubt the bruises have healed yet...


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            • #7
              Anyone know what the biggest ships to use Haulbowline as home port pre-independence were?

              Article above mentions cruisers, did they ever have dreadnoughts or were they all in Scapa Flow?

              If only cruisers, was this due to the physical limits of the harbour or for operational reasons, to whack von Tirpitz' boys???

              Bueller???? Bueller????
              "Hello, Good Evening and Bollocks..."

              Roger Mellie

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Docman
                The article said that the HMS Richmond was one of the largest ships in the British Navy. That is what I commented on. I did not mention Cork. However the HMS Manchester is FAR bigger than a type 23 and HMS Argus dwarfs the 2 of them.
                A Type 23 is larger than HMS Manchester,I'm sorry to say.(Odd that a frigate would be larger than a destroyer,but their weaponry is similar).

                The vessel is not open to the public. The quayside where she is tied up is a restricted area,patrolled by hungry gardai. Plenty of room to take photos from accross the road or river though,if thats your thing.


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                • #9
                  RFA ships don't count as RN vessels. I was merely asking what was the largest RN vessel to visit Cork .....city...not harbour in the recent past. Type 23 frigates have a displacement of 4,200tons while type 42 destroyers ...batch 3...displace 4675...

                  HMS Manchester is a batch 3 Type 42 and so is 50 feet longer than her predecessors and so is 575 tons heavier than the batch 1 and 2.

                  The largest vessel to berth at haulbowline in recent years was the Canadian destroyer HMCS Algonquin in 1986 which collected the two pdr pom pom gun for the canadian restoration of a flower class corvette.She tied up at the oil wharf for the period of high tide and sailed after 5 hours. She displaced 5,100 tons.

                  Given that the southern Ireland cruiser squadron was based at haulbowline during the Royal Navy tenancy of the island ...its a case of pick a cruiser of the era. Alight cruiser at the turn of the century could displace any where between 13,000 and 18,000 tons depending on the class. These would have been unable to actually go alongside and would have been tended by lighters.
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                  • #10
                    Speaking of the RN in Haulbowline,I was talking to an officer down there recently who told me of a photo of the entire basin being used as a dry dock during the RN days. The bottom of the basin is actually paved with granite!


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                    • #11
                      Before Verolme took over Rushbrook in 1960, they looked at the basin in Haulbowline. The whole lot was on offer to them if they would reinstate the old dry dock.
                      Just as well they went across the river.

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                      • #12
                        The old ship breakers in Passage were known as Haulbowline industries. Thats probably why.
                        The drydock cannot be used because the RN scuttled the caissons.


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                        • #14
                          Very nice.......
                          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                          • #15
                            anyone catch the clip on six one?


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