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Goldie fish
22nd November 2005, 22:45
By chance tonight I stumbled upon an excellent documentary series on BBC1 TV.(9pm)

Called "Shipmates" it chronicles the Life aboard HMS Chatham and HMS Ocean.
The First episode detailed the Departure of HMS Chatham from Devonport to the Gulf prior to last Christmas,Transiting the Suez Canal, and Boarding suspect vessels in the Gulf area.

However the routine took a dramatic change following December 26 last year, as Chatham was sent to the Indian Ocean to assist in the Tsunami Relief effort.


Worth watching.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/prog_parse.cgi?FILENAME=20051122/20051122_2100_4223_55736_60



Shipmates

Tue 22 Nov, 21:00 - 22:00 60 mins

New Series

Hello - Goodbye

Just three weeks before Christmas HMS Chatham, a type 22 Frigate, leaves her home base of Plymouth for a six month deployment to the Gulf. Her mission: to detect, disrupt and destroy terrorism on the high seas. Within two weeks HMS Chatham is on patrol - on the lookout for merchant ships carrying arms, drugs or terrorists themselves. It is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Christmas day is spent 60 miles off the south coast of Iran but on Boxing Day the weather takes a turn for the worse and the sea becomes unseasonly rough. Then comes the news that the ship is riding the after-effects of a massive earthquake just off Indonesia that has generated a massive tsunami. This programme contains some strong language. [S]


Subtitles Widescreen Stereo


Subject:
Factual; Features & Events

GoneToTheCanner
22nd November 2005, 22:47
Hi all
Watched the new series, started tonite, about HMS Chatham's deployment to the Gulf.Very interesting and informative.Was there ever anything like it on the Irish Navy?
regards
GttC

rod and serpent
22nd November 2005, 22:50
Excellent stuff.

Goldie fish
22nd November 2005, 22:54
Well Derek Davis did do 2 shows aboard L.E Niamh during her Asian Visit some years ago.

Sluggie
23rd November 2005, 00:00
He turned part of it into a Derek Davis cookery programe as I remember.

There was a very good fly-on-the-wall documentary series called HMS Brilliant about 8-10 years ago - they were looking for arms shipments into Bosnia as I remember. I think it was a Channel 4 production. I found it interesting but i don't think the ratings were great (the TV viewership Ratings!).

The best episode covered a run ashore in Istanbul. It was the first bit of freedom in months and of course when sailors are given shore leave all the safety valves release the built-up tensions.

There was a very good core group of characters of different ranks who were followed throughout the series.

Some amazing footage (and music) of a passage through the Corrinth canal.

GoneToTheCanner
23rd November 2005, 13:45
Hi Sluggie
I'll bet they don't show the bits where the shore patrol has to drag some of the overimbibers back to the ship to avoid the wrath/boots/knives of the local populace/police...a friend of mine, who served on one of their Carriers, once told me that they were less than loved by the Maltese police after several nights of "tension release"......that gunner was having a great time with his Minigun!....they must have felt hexed to get a fire within their first hour under way....the padre looks like a right beaut! He'll be a changed man after six months afloat.
Compulsory viewing.
regards
GttC

McCarthy
23rd November 2005, 13:58
Great show, gives great insight to life onboard

DeV
23rd November 2005, 16:26
HMS Brillant, very good BBC documentary.

rod and serpent
23rd November 2005, 19:18
The Royal Navy must be short of recruits, that`s why they have allowed this documentry to be made.:biggrin:

McCarthy
23rd November 2005, 20:22
Every few years they produce these documentaries

spider
24th November 2005, 11:57
There was a documentary on RTE about 6-7 years ago called "Irish Navy". Only one episode. Covered a bit of the history of the Naval Service, their roles etc. Included an interview with Charles Haughey about how he secured the deal for the Hong Kong Patrol Vessels. Well worth watching at the time.

Goldie fish
24th November 2005, 13:22
That show was made in conjunction with the NS 50th anniversary, in 1996.

andy
24th November 2005, 14:06
good show but isnt this kind of show a well worn path with the BBC ??

Goldie fish
24th November 2005, 14:09
True. Did anyone else notice the amount of "rotund" gentlemen within Her Majestys Navy? I would look positively athletic among some of them...

HavocIRL
24th November 2005, 14:14
Should be called HMS Fatham

Wasn't it HMS Chatham that did the Bohemian Rhapsody skit for charity.

Goldie fish
24th November 2005, 15:00
Should be called HMS Fatham

Wasn't it HMS Chatham that did the Bohemian Rhapsody skit for charity.

http://www.vidahost.com/MOD_3041_22852.wmv

McCarthy
24th November 2005, 17:46
great video, i havent seen that one before

Rooster
24th November 2005, 19:02
Should be called HMS Fatham

Wasn't it HMS Chatham that did the Bohemian Rhapsody skit for charity.


HMS Campbeltown I believe, filmed about 3 months after I left!

Rooster
24th November 2005, 19:05
True. Did anyone else notice the amount of "rotund" gentlemen within Her Majestys Navy? I would look positively athletic among some of them...


Wine women and song, at the end of the day if you've spent twenty years getting bevvied up at her majesties expence then your gonna put on a few pounds.

Sluggie
24th November 2005, 22:32
Wine women and song

I thought Churchill said it was Rum, Sodomy and the Lash?

punkdangle
27th November 2005, 21:10
Anybody think that the Base Vicar had a touch of David Brent from "The Office" about him?

GoneToTheCanner
28th November 2005, 09:50
Hi,Punk
I thought that the vicar came across as a bit clueless. I'm sure that's been rubbed off by now, but I'd imagine he'd get a hard time from some of the oul sweats.
regards
GttC

ex pat 007
28th November 2005, 11:53
I know "Rab" from another board and hes watchin this with interest. The Show and personalities seem to be getting a better reception here than at the ARRSE board.

McCarthy
29th November 2005, 22:29
this weeks episode wasnt a great follow-up of last weeks...still good all the same

Slacker
29th November 2005, 23:40
Didn't catch last week's, but very impressed with it all the same.

Not sure about the "Hornblower" soundtrack though. Bloody stereotypes.......

rod and serpent
30th November 2005, 00:08
Well so far, so good.

Goldie fish
30th November 2005, 01:04
this weeks episode wasnt a great follow-up of last weeks...still good all the same

It was a very realistic account of how the Modern Naval forces have to adapt to whatever task they are given. In this case, humanitarian aid. Get used to the idea if you intend persuing a career in our own NS. Have a look at the proposal for the Emer replacement, it is designed with this very role in mind.

It is interesting to see how the series is promoting the RN as a force for good, rather than an extension of a nations military might.

Similar to the TV show some months back about Irish troops in Liberia which promoted the idea of "reluctant warriors" to an ever increasing anti-war audience, in my opinion this show is trying to win back the support of the British public to its military, in the face of a public which is rapidly tiring of the War in iraq and the reasons the British military went there in the first place. It is promoting the RN as Humans, individuals, with families, and not as war hungry animals as some sections of the media would like you to believe.

Itchy
30th November 2005, 08:55
It is promoting the RN as Humans, individuals, with families, and not as war hungry animals as some sections of the media would like you to believe.

What sections of the media? Where?

rod and serpent
30th November 2005, 12:06
Good old Jack Tar.

Kieran
30th November 2005, 16:38
Its a pity that the DF isnt as willing to let the press have that kind of access (apart from nationwide it seems). The brits always seem to have documenterys and stuff on.

Goldie fish
30th November 2005, 20:16
What sections of the media? Where?
http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/board/showthread.php?t=7676

HavocIRL
30th November 2005, 20:34
Its a pity that the DF isnt as willing to let the press have that kind of access (apart from nationwide it seems). The brits always seem to have documenterys and stuff on.


Good idea except for the fact that cash runs don't really make for exciting television.

Goldie fish
1st December 2005, 01:34
Havoc, try to see it from an outsiders viewpoint. Here the DF are, taking €700m or so of taxpayers money every year, and all they see is as you say, a few bored soldiers every week on the cash escort.
But look beyond that, to the recruit training, the overseas training, the ARW selection, The Naval vessels pounding through the seas in all weathers, the Air Corps doing whatever they do these days. To someone who has never seen how these things happen, such a documentary can be interesting. I remember watching a fascinating documentary on discovery once about the Below decks crew of a US aircraft carrier. A large portion of the time was taken with the life of a guy who worked in the Laundry.
Some years back, TG4 had a great series of shows dealing with each element of SAR at sea, which devoted one episode each to the Coastguard, Lifeboats, Naval service, and Air Corps, which was at that time still operating out of Finner.

Don't let the cynicism grind you down at such an early age.

HavocIRL
1st December 2005, 12:53
All I'm saying is that, in my mind at least, most of the cool stuff the army wouldn't want the public to see. I can imagine the army letting a TV show about recruit training go on but it wouldn't show the day to day stuff. I could only see them doing interviews with the recruits afterwards when they're resting off not while they're doing the actual training.

GoneToTheCanner
1st December 2005, 21:51
Hi all
Perhaps the only reason there haven't been more fly-on-the-wall documentaries about the PDF is the possibility of litigation,i.e; if some guy feels he's been shown in a bad light, he might get lawyered up and throw in a claim....apart from that, it might be the boredom factor. As you all know only too well, an awful lot of routine life in the PDF is deathly boring. Take out the gung-ho stuff and it can be mighty dull.
regards
GttC

Brian McGrath
2nd December 2005, 17:47
Hi Guys
I think it is an excellent series and it does give a look at life in todays modern navies which I am sure is restricted on whats shown, nexts weeks one I think is going to be shore based, did any of you see another very good programme on BBC1 called "The Queens Cavalary" it finished yesterday and followed recruits for the three months of their traing both with horses and the armoured division until they passed out. I would love to see a programme about our own defence forces with one based on Navy,Army and air corps, come on RTE get the finger out and do it.
Brian

moggy
7th December 2005, 19:50
Not for nothing, but last night show on BBC was Crap???

HavocIRL
7th December 2005, 20:28
Thought it was very good. Gun pulling was very entertaining, shame about the final race though.

Watching the brand new naval recruits doing their foot drill was very funny too.

DS- SQUAD! FALL OUT BY THE RIGHT! Its all right it was a 50/50 chance!

GoneToTheCanner
10th December 2005, 19:01
Hi all
Wasn't overly impressed by "Tasha" myself. Whilst she had plenty of grit in taking part in the Field Gun training, her statement that she was absolutely unwilling to go to sea, under any circumstances, 'cos of her kids, took away from her achievements. The whole point of the Navy is the sea.If all she wanted to be was a gym instructor, she could find work outside in a heartbeat.No point in bleating about how wonderful RN tradition is, if you don't want to participate in it's main tradition, i.e; going to sea.
regards
GttC

Goldie fish
10th December 2005, 19:14
Sadly, there are many like her in haulbowline too...

moggy
11th December 2005, 20:13
yeah that crack is coming to an end - 2 in 2 out that's what i say

Rooster
12th December 2005, 01:07
exactly, while I can't talk about the INS, the number of people in the RN finding excuses to get out of sea going/frontline drafts is constantly amazing. The thing is they are happy enough to draw the pay and swagger about gobbing off about the old days!!!!!

McCarthy
20th December 2005, 22:18
ah ya, great show showing the daily seances that go on in the royal navy and all that...

rod and serpent
20th December 2005, 22:21
ah ya, great show showing the daily seances that go on in the royal navy and all that...


What a shile of pite.

HavocIRL
20th December 2005, 22:23
Crap episode tonight.

Goldie fish
20th December 2005, 22:27
Agreed. Improved in the second half hour though, when they had finished showing what its like to be afraid in dark rooms and go on the piss with the royal Navy.
They could have devoted the entire hour to the Egypt and Gallipoli ceremonies. The rest we can see on trash TV any time.

McCarthy
20th December 2005, 22:28
Yer man Rab is a great face for a recruitment campaign isnt he?

Goldie fish
21st December 2005, 05:23
I'm sure there is a soccer hooligan lost in him.

moggy
21st December 2005, 08:48
I'm sure there is a soccer hooligan lost in him.

Tonight is the last show at 19:00 hrs - looks good navy exercise??

McCarthy
21st December 2005, 13:47
yeah... 'The Thursday War'


Shipmates
Wed 21 Dec, 7:00 pm - 8:00 pm 60mins

Theatre of War

Every Thursday in Plymouth the Navy go to war. Warships, submarines, jet fighters and fully armed Royal Marines engage in full-scale simulated battle on land, on the sea and in the air. Mike Brotherton, the Chaplain of HMS Ocean, the biggest ship in the Royal Navy, gets as involved as anyone else in the hostilities. Known as the Mad Bish and as eccentric as they come, Mike has to be at hand to deal with the 'wounded' and the 'dying'.

Meanwhile Angela Thomas, a friend of the Mad Bish, and equally as eccentric, is busy with her own dress rehearsal. She is putting on a big production of HMS Pinafore with the local operatic group and it is the opening night tonight. Mike Brotherton aims to be there - war permitting. [S]

HavocIRL
21st December 2005, 14:40
Say what you like about Raab, you have to admit he's a great dancer.

rod and serpent
21st December 2005, 17:34
I'm sure there is a soccer hooligan lost in him.

There`s a crowd of skinny soccer hooligans list in him. :biggrin:

moggy
22nd December 2005, 09:24
yeah... 'The Thursday War'


Shipmates
Wed 21 Dec, 7:00 pm - 8:00 pm 60mins

Theatre of War

Every Thursday in Plymouth the Navy go to war. Warships, submarines, jet fighters and fully armed Royal Marines engage in full-scale simulated battle on land, on the sea and in the air. Mike Brotherton, the Chaplain of HMS Ocean, the biggest ship in the Royal Navy, gets as involved as anyone else in the hostilities. Known as the Mad Bish and as eccentric as they come, Mike has to be at hand to deal with the 'wounded' and the 'dying'.

Meanwhile Angela Thomas, a friend of the Mad Bish, and equally as eccentric, is busy with her own dress rehearsal. She is putting on a big production of HMS Pinafore with the local operatic group and it is the opening night tonight. Mike Brotherton aims to be there - war permitting. [S]



Show would of been good except for that HMS Pinafore rubbish -

Goldie fish
22nd December 2005, 17:11
And that irritating womans laugh. I fail to see the connection Between HMS Pinafore and HMS Victory. If anything comparison is an insult.

coffee
22nd December 2005, 19:00
http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/1221/nationwide.html

this was better

GoneToTheCanner
23rd December 2005, 00:06
Hi there
Watched the "Thursday War" episode the other night. Interesting enough, especially the controlled chaos in the Ops Room as they tried to target the incoming "missiles".Thought the GPMG firing was a waste of time. If they were being attacked by a cannon-firing fighter, then standing out on deck with a rifle-calibre machine-gun is a one-way ticket.Does our Navy practise anti-aircraft defence?
regards
GttC

spider
23rd December 2005, 10:39
The GPMG's were used in the Falklands War against low flying Argentine aircraft, along with SLR rifles, LMG's and anything else that could put some lead in the air.

As well as anti-aircraft defence they are used for local defence against small boats etc. The now gone NI patrol vessels had a GPMG mounted on each bridge wing for that purpose when operating in confined waters.

spider
23rd December 2005, 10:48
www.royal-navy.mod.uk has an interesting site on Hms Ocean with a link about the Padre.

He's been round a few corners in his time.

rod and serpent
23rd December 2005, 12:04
Did anyone spot the Northie. :biggrin:

spider
23rd December 2005, 12:54
I spotted two, the flid steward who did'nt like picking up the officers dirty washing and the Captain from FOST.

rod and serpent
23rd December 2005, 14:07
the flid steward .


He used to be in my unit.

HavocIRL
23rd December 2005, 16:42
At the start when they went onto the pretend island of iskia to rescue the local inhabitants was a bit shocking. Thought it was real when I saw it.

spider
23rd December 2005, 16:50
He used to be in my unit.

Looks like he should have stayed in your unit, his Naval career ain't looking too promising.