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GoneToTheCanner
20th February 2006, 14:33
Hi all
Do the crews of PDF AFVs wear any kind of flash-hood or protective clothing? Is it common practise in foreign armies to wear anything other than standard-issue combat clothing, whilst inside AFVs? Are NS personnel the only ones to wear flash-hoods?
regards
GttC

hptmurphy
21st February 2006, 10:25
No they do not...and the DPM gear is not fire retarded either. Also the smocks are too baggy for the inside of AFVs. I did question the minister on this before...but it went right over his head.

As sure it'll be alright until some gets hurt!

Truck Driver
22nd February 2006, 22:49
Hi all
Do the crews of PDF AFVs wear any kind of flash-hood or protective clothing? Is it common practise in foreign armies to wear anything other than standard-issue combat clothing, whilst inside AFVs? Are NS personnel the only ones to wear flash-hoods?
regards
GttC

GttC, I'm pretty sure that our trans Atlantic cousins wear a fire retardant Nomex suit, for use in AFV's. Cal Tanker will be able to confirm or deny this, I'm sure.

California Tanker
22nd February 2006, 22:56
Technically, nothing issued today to the new soldier in US Basic is 'safe for wear in tanks', from the T-shirt through the boots to the raincoat due to all the synthetic materials

However, the nomex CVC is still on issue once you get to your unit, but you don't have enough. I had one single nomex suit for my year in Iraq, so for most days, as with most people, I wore standard DCUs. Most tankers quickly buy their own tanker boots anyway, because they're cool.

The rules for live fire gunnery are that you can wear BDUs as long as the top button is done up (It usually isn't), and gloves are worn, either leather or nomex. Boots must be all leather. There is a nomex balaclava as well, but it covers only the ears and neck, not the face. I don't know anyone that wears it.

This was pretty much our standard summer get-up: Gunner and driver in a T-shirt, loader and TC in DCUs with armour. I started wearing nomex gloves about half-way in, mainly for comfort.

http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/gnrtc.JPG

NTM

GoneToTheCanner
23rd February 2006, 09:03
Jesus,Cal!
You couldn't swing a mouse in that space, not to mind a cat.Heaven help you if a flash fire went thru the fighting compartment. Still, I suppose you could use the gunner's head as a step to get out the top hatch!
regards
GttC

Goldie fish
23rd February 2006, 09:15
Its quite roomy compared to a panhard...

Then again, you are not trying to seat 4 in an AML90

California Tanker
23rd February 2006, 17:21
Well, remember, I'm 3" taller than the regulations allow for tankers. I fit much better in the M1 than in the AML, mind.

NTM