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  1. Thread: iveco ambulance

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    More a case that the FIAT group owns Iveco...

    More a case that the FIAT group owns Iveco outright (and Alfa, Ferrari, Maserati, New Holland agriculture and construction equipment).
  2. This is the crux of the thing. Firstly, none of...

    This is the crux of the thing. Firstly, none of us know exactly what planning the NS has already completed in terms of fleet size and composition into the future, but that will ultimately be decided...
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    To use the developing vernacular, he pulled it...

    To use the developing vernacular, he pulled it out of his Anglo Irish Bank. May be something to do with just counting MPA missions (as opposed to training and other flights), or counting periods when...
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    Frankly, given the rate at which both Reapers and...

    Frankly, given the rate at which both Reapers and Predators are lost, 2 won't get you very far. The RAF started with 2, and then promptly lost one, for example.

    And the CASAs do a lot more than...
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    We would have an issue with range (and speed) and...

    We would have an issue with range (and speed) and surviveability also. We have an awful lot of air and water out there to the west, and more range means more size, and thus more cost. There really...
  6. The specifics of what goes into a CIT will remain...

    The specifics of what goes into a CIT will remain general, but (a) the suggestion that the DF have 'no means to react' is silly, and (b) the equipment used is tailored to the threat, as you suggest....
  7. Again, I think you are confusing this state with...

    Again, I think you are confusing this state with some flyblown developing world $hithole. In nearly 40 years of CIT, and not one serious attempt has been made on a at a CIT convoy (including long...
  8. In any likely scenario in this State the two are...

    In any likely scenario in this State the two are not mutually exclusive. Which is entirely the point.

    Again, not Iraq, not Northern Ireland.
  9. A bit of both. In some ways it codified and set...

    A bit of both. In some ways it codified and set out what was already happening, but it was very carefully couched and very vague. It also left huge areas of security and defence policy untouched...
  10. Sorry, but nope. Leaving aside the fact that in...

    Sorry, but nope. Leaving aside the fact that in 30+ years, no one has ever had an overt pop at a CIT patrol (which should tell you something), the threat assessment simply doesn't require armoured...
  11. One minor issue with your idea RGJ - this isn't...

    One minor issue with your idea RGJ - this isn't Northern Ireland or Basra - its a relatively well policed western european country with a low crime rate, a largely unarmed police force and a small...
  12. As far as I know it hasn't been the main function...

    As far as I know it hasn't been the main function for at least a decade.
  13. On CIT (and lets keep it general), you have to...

    On CIT (and lets keep it general), you have to remember that the Gardai have long worked the other side of the coin extensively as well in terms of intelligence gathering and surveillance on criminal...
  14. This....

    This.
    http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/institutional_affairs/treaties/lisbon_treaty/ai0026_en.htm

    These tasks are shared, not centralised.




    Hence the use of the word 'old'.
  15. To be fair, a lot of the causal factors for the...

    To be fair, a lot of the causal factors for the 'Tiger II' (2001-8) came from the political desire to spread economic goodies around the country. The real Tiger years were urban centric, as is/will...
  16. Because the 'C' in CFSP stands for Common, not...

    Because the 'C' in CFSP stands for Common, not 'Central'.



    You forgot about manning decrepit barracks in county towns and participating in St Patricks Day parades. Critical defence tasks for...
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    Cool. There are really two questions there then,...

    Cool. There are really two questions there then, one being how far are people pushing the platform, the other being doctrine and use thereof.

    Plenty of countries have bought current gen APCs with...
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    Are we talking wheeled APCs or dedicated fighting...

    Are we talking wheeled APCs or dedicated fighting platforms?

    There's a quite a difference between something like a Rooikat, Centauro or AMX-10RC and a the current crop of upgunned, up armoured...
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    :biggrin: It's obvious that you have indeed...

    :biggrin:

    It's obvious that you have indeed done this for a living.
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    Against any first world opponent, absolutely. The...

    Against any first world opponent, absolutely. The entire AC could be dealt with in one relatively small air strike. Against someone unloading arms from a trawler, or against someone who has taken a...
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    In theory you can monetise any externality for...

    In theory you can monetise any externality for the purposes of a CBA, so you could well try and come up with a figure for all of the outputs that the AC deliver. Some of these would be easy (like the...
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    The rubber track idea dates to 1913, but there...

    The rubber track idea dates to 1913, but there was a new design of track arrive on the market in the late 1980s (the CAT Challenger tractors were the first users), it's a moulded rubber track with a...
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    Yup - that's what I was trying to refer to. But...

    Yup - that's what I was trying to refer to. But the BV is very light - highly atypical of military tracked vehicles. That said, they might work on a Scorpion too.

    Back on topic though - the DF...
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    In general, tracks are a pain in the a$$ to...

    In general, tracks are a pain in the a$$ to maintain, particularly if you're going to run them on the road. And links and pads are one thing, there's an ongoing maintenance load associated with...
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    Exactly. You could work out a formal cost/benefit...

    Exactly. You could work out a formal cost/benefit analysis of the AC (as presently formulated), but it would need to use a far broader set of metrics than just flying hours.
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