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    I remember seeing them in Baldonnel for several...

    I remember seeing them in Baldonnel for several security operations and the rules were: give them absolutely whatever they want, give them no shit, don't ask stupid questions, no photographs on pain...
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    The only reason the Israelis and Syrians are not...

    The only reason the Israelis and Syrians are not pegging at each other is because they have plenty to be going on with in their respective backyards. I'd say it's a mutual unwritten agreement not to...
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    That's what I'm talking about. When the Gardai...

    That's what I'm talking about. When the Gardai started into helicopters, there were plenty of turf wars with the Don and noses were put out of joint on both sides until a suitable compromise was...
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    No-one mentioned party hats...

    No-one mentioned party hats...
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    Maybe the use of the word "beg" is wrong but when...

    Maybe the use of the word "beg" is wrong but when one agency has to ask another for an asset, which is a limited and expensive asset, dependent on humans, then the possibility of a "no" always...
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    Then by those lights, it's time to scrap the ARW,...

    Then by those lights, it's time to scrap the ARW, if you think all they are good for is scoping out dissidents and other ne'er-do-wells. They have a distinct military function but clearly the Gods...
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    So it's a case of moving A to B or B to A; SF...

    So it's a case of moving A to B or B to A; SF from their base and all the associated facilities or move the heli on a rotational basis (which the Don have been doing since the 70s). There are pros...
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    you simply run the roster from baldonnel, as they...

    you simply run the roster from baldonnel, as they did for the border for years, for two locations and currently do for Athlone. This is not new or difficult.....the fire crew in DFTC are...
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    a Dyson hoover tank will cost a fortune and will...

    a Dyson hoover tank will cost a fortune and will be excellent. A chinese copy will not cost a fortune and will still be excellent. Imagine, blow shit up and clean up the mess, with no bags.
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    That's what you pay the techs for. If it can't be...

    That's what you pay the techs for. If it can't be fixed, then you call for a replacement. Same argument as for the Alouettes on the border and the air ambulance in Athlone. Remember, it's not that...
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    It was always about multi-role. Always has been....

    It was always about multi-role. Always has been. Alouettes, Cessnas, King Airs and the rest did every job known to man short of carrying guns and the current generation are doing the same. The Don...
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    I'll have to disagree with you. We don't know...

    I'll have to disagree with you. We don't know here if the ARW boss has ever looked for their own aircraft or has drawn up a doctrine or plan to have one. Nor do we know where they lie in the priority...
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    1: if the DF couldn't move a helicopter to the...

    1: if the DF couldn't move a helicopter to the Curragh (the DF's biggest, best equipped centre, with it's own fire station), put in a modest fuel tank and a reel of hose, a windsock, a piece of flat,...
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    @Flamingo, Im quite sure they won't tell you but...

    @Flamingo, Im quite sure they won't tell you but I'll bet the ARW could easily use a heli for training, in the same fashion as they use the Casa for para training. It's a vehicle and the neighbours...
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    If you had to move the ARW to Baldonnel, just to...

    If you had to move the ARW to Baldonnel, just to fill a few gaps in the scenery, you would have to build a secure barracks, transport yard, armoury,etc,etc for them, which would cost a bloody...
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    You just give it to them, end of, just like...

    You just give it to them, end of, just like issuing a pair of boots or signing over a truck, a QM makes an entry on a ledger, a pilot delivers it to the Curragh and then either stays to fly it for...
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    The thing about overseas sales is that you...

    The thing about overseas sales is that you effectively have to be cynical and stop pretending that neutrality is anything but a sham, such as Sweden and Switzerland do. They are quite happy to sell...
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    Then do please tell me how the US forces managed...

    Then do please tell me how the US forces managed with the single-engined OH-6, all these years. The EC 120 didn't sell very well because it failed to supplant old Gazelles, Bo-105s and existing...
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    All it would take is one airframe, even a 135....

    All it would take is one airframe, even a 135. It's about access, utility and independence of operation. Hamstringing SF by keeping a primary asset out of reach is pointless.
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    True, but the Gardai and CG (and every private...

    True, but the Gardai and CG (and every private operator in the State) proved that it is perfectly possible for other adults to use helicopters without the Don's overwatch, albeit with Don pilots...
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    Timoney probably made a greater contribution to...

    Timoney probably made a greater contribution to armour development by it's undercarriage and drivetrain work than by building a simple armoured box and it's products are also on many fire engines...
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    By the way, this is no dig at R/Adm. Mellett....

    By the way, this is no dig at R/Adm. Mellett. From what I know of him, he's a well-regarded competent guy........as for using politics to get ahead, that's all well and good as long as there isn't a...
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    You know what, I had so many officers in my time...

    You know what, I had so many officers in my time tell me about how difficult it was to get promotion once you got above the automatic promotion levels and how they had to jockey and duck and dive in...
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    The point about politics is that you will not...

    The point about politics is that you will not rise about Commandant or it's naval equivalent in this DF unless you are a political animal of some kind; you have to be a good networker (schmoozer) and...
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    they with either be stored with due care and...

    they with either be stored with due care and attention or they'll be left out and will rot and will only be fit for holding plants.Pick one option;-)
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