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    the thing about the GOC's wishlist is that the...

    the thing about the GOC's wishlist is that the Don having strategic airlift has been rubbished by civil servants in the past several times so it sounds like ti would fall at the Dept of Finance...
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    tell you what, let's annoy the kerry people and...

    tell you what, let's annoy the kerry people and put a primary head on Carrauntoohil, one on Croagh Patrick, one on whatever is the highest mountain in Donegal. That way, we'd have coverage in all the...
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    Those are line of sight issues, not coverage....

    Those are line of sight issues, not coverage. Mountains, tall buildings, manmade structures,etc. British coverage (the footprint, if you like) extends down into France and the Low Countries and vice...
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    I doubt very much if UK radar coverage does not...

    I doubt very much if UK radar coverage does not extend over Ireland. Certainly civil coverage does and has done for quite a while.............either lease from the Swedes or bite the political bullet...
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    Ireland is not exactly inexperienced at keeping...

    Ireland is not exactly inexperienced at keeping an eye on the near-Atlantic, from a radar point of view. They have been doing it since radar first came to Ireland and right now, Ireland's civil radar...
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    There's nothing preventing the RAF from basing...

    There's nothing preventing the RAF from basing fighters in Norn Iron, negating the need to have a base in the Republic. i'll bet you that there is a Govt level agreement to allow transit of RAF...
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    My grandfather did much the same; how much will...

    My grandfather did much the same; how much will we use? we're not bringing it back. BOOOOOOOMMMM!! Stump goes at least 100 feet in the air and windows broken all round. Great fun!
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    Russians! who else would do it?!

    Russians! who else would do it?!
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    pardon the question but how much shit do you need...

    pardon the question but how much shit do you need to carry to a range practise?!.........I have to say, anyone buying kit is subsidising the DF. This is back to the old story about the lanyards...
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    @C252, much as I would like to agree with you on...

    @C252, much as I would like to agree with you on the need to make the Don fit for overseas duty, the reality is that the Don deployed to the Border for thirty years, had a brief foray into Sligo and...
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    with regard to OS trips, I know of cases where...

    with regard to OS trips, I know of cases where fellas were ordered to go on trips, as in, it was made clear to them that it was effectively compulsory.
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    @TD, not true. It was done to former Aer Lingus...

    @TD, not true. It was done to former Aer Lingus staff so it can be done............
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    I wouldn't be so ready to disregard Sweden, just...

    I wouldn't be so ready to disregard Sweden, just because they don't have a land border with Russia. They are always aware of the Russians next door and very vigilant and the Swedish State enjoys the...
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    I was reading about modern fighter costs, in...

    I was reading about modern fighter costs, in particular about the Typhoon getting the Austrian contract and the subtext was that the Austrian govt changed and the incoming crowd took one look at what...
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    How could the Govt plead inability to pay a...

    How could the Govt plead inability to pay a handful of cooks? Honestly, if that's the Govt's best defence, then they need to radically upgrade the quality of the legal team.
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    Either of the two can carry multiple drop tanks...

    Either of the two can carry multiple drop tanks on top of a light load of AAMs and their inbuilt cannon. The more modern fighters you mentioned have every electronic doodah known to man and the...
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    ask the Rumanians for a few of their upgraded...

    ask the Rumanians for a few of their upgraded MiG-21s. Fast, tough, well-armed and able to deal with a Bear and able to fit into Shannon and cheap, as supersonic fighters go. failing that, ask the...
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    If push came to shove, you'd find that they'd cut...

    If push came to shove, you'd find that they'd cut the fat from courses if they had to. Most DF courses take too long but are geared to the lowest common denominator, elf n safety and cushy jobs in...
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    A significant amount of what you have listed is...

    A significant amount of what you have listed is junk. They routinely keep aircraft flying by cannibalising airframes so mere possession is no guarantee of actual serviceability.
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    The UN perpetually owes us money....most, if not...

    The UN perpetually owes us money....most, if not all of the primary radar heads are already on mountains and are well known. I don't know what they have in NI..........The DF wont give up the UN...
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    Hi All, Dev, I've been in Sweden and been on...

    Hi All,
    Dev, I've been in Sweden and been on those roads but even they have reduced road training from once a year to once every five years.........Turkey, thats why myself and previous posters have...
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    Shannon is the winner because it is long enough...

    Shannon is the winner because it is long enough and it is physically big enough, space wise. Baldonnel is too short for loaded / armed fighters to use safely and it is already a very confined site....
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    In terms of the existing national infrastructure,...

    In terms of the existing national infrastructure, none of our airports and airfields meet NATO standards for fighter operation; no crash barrier, no safe area for weapons storing, no hardened...
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    they had the Hawk and now have some PC 21s, on...

    they had the Hawk and now have some PC 21s, on top of their PC7/9 fleet. You can configure a PC -21's avionics to simulate a modern jet fighter. Modern fighter pilots spend huge amounts of time in...
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    The Donners would love the excuse to go on...

    The Donners would love the excuse to go on jollies to Sweden. Just bring the Swedes here and let them do the heavy lifting otherwise you end up with the self-licking lollipop of a constant rotation...
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