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    sorry I didnt know you tie up your boats
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog View Post
    sorry I didnt know you tie up your boats
    hedgee we are not talking buses here

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    I know I was only yanking your

    sheet/ line/ roper/anchor
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog View Post
    I know I was only yanking your

    sheet/ line/ roper/anchor
    thats ok

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    USS McFaul (DDG-74) arrived in Cobh this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moggy View Post
    French Minesweeper 'andromede' Due In Dublin 02/10/7 @ 09:00 Hrs Also
    German U-boat ( U-15 ) Due In Dublin 2/10/7 @ 15:00 Hrs
    Anybody That Has The Day Off Would Get Great Picture Along The Liffey
    French minesweper small looks like L.E.. fola
    U-15 very small 24 crew on board you would have to look out for it
    on the quay wall otherwise it would you will miss it

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    Quote Originally Posted by moggy View Post
    French minesweper small looks like L.E.. fola
    U-15 very small 24 crew on board you would have to look out for it
    on the quay wall otherwise it would you will miss it
    Photos here: http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.c...1360&g2_page=6
    Last edited by Goldie fish; 27th October 2007 at 23:37.

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    I just reshuffled them into the correct folder. Link duly edited.

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    HMS Cattistock, a Royal Navy Hunt class mine countrmeasures vessel, berthed on Sir John Rogerson's Quay in Dublin today. This picture was taken in Malta a few years ago:



    LE Orla was also present.

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    Tupperware navy.

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    Hnlms Rotterdam And Johan De Witt Due Ocean Pier DUBLIN Tomorrow
    2 Big Mama's -- Dutch
    Last edited by moggy; 15th November 2007 at 20:08.

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    Sure is


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    Both of them?

    Is there enough room?

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    Maybe it's a sales promotion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ias View Post
    Maybe it's a sales promotion...
    It'll be the most unsuccessful sales promotion ever!
    Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Tupperware navy.

    Hull material non-metal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Hull material non-metal?
    On the Hunts yes. First class of minesweeper to use fibreglass hulls, which was first tried out on a TON type.

    I see Johan de Witt is not due for Commissioning until Later this month. We could make them an offer.....
    Its definitely a sales pitch. They are not on any "tour" of european ports. They both return to Den Helder for the 22nd, and were in Plymouth on the 7th and 5th, and Devonport on the 6th. Prior to that,Rotterdam was back in Den Helder.

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    You never know...

    An EPV based on the smaller ENFORCER design and a couple of OPVs based on the SIGMA corvettes? The Dutch are aware of the kind of money the Naval Service have to spend, so maybe they're going to offer a package deal....

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    Double Dutch..

    Some pictures taken in Dublin Port this morning, as the Dutch sales team, sorry, Dutch Navy landing ships arrived:

    DoubleDutch.jpg

    JdeW_1.jpg

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    Ro_1.jpg

    Ro_3.jpg

    Johan de Witt was first to arrive, heading upriver with the tide. As I was watching from the Bull Wall, a rather red-faced elderly gent came along and asked "Is that a battleship? It'll be just like Shannon Airport, with all those American aircraft. We'll be a target now, you know. They don't realise Ireland is neutral!" Then he stalked off with his dog, probably composing his letter to the Irish Times.

    Rotterdam came about an hour later, towed in by a couple of tugs, as she had to be reversed into her berth. One of the most notable aspects of the ships is the high slab-sided superstructures. It was just as well there was little or no wind in the port at the time, otherwise there might have been some fun. Both ships have a pair of CIWS for close air defence - one forward and one on top of superstructure aft - but they looked like big helpless targets for a submarine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrington View Post
    Both ships have a pair of CIWS for close air defence - one forward and one on top of superstructure aft - but they looked like big helpless targets for a submarine....
    Good thing the submarine thread was closed then.

    Good thing too that the Navy of the Netherlands operate ships like this, which are engaged in a thing called "anti submarine warfare".


    Major auxiliaries like Rotterdam, never work alone where there is a submarine threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Both of them?

    Is there enough room?
    plenty of room goldie - took a visit to the ships last night - still quite a lot of berths available - some ship -the flight deck is hugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Its definitely a sales pitch..
    Question 3
    Are proposals for vessels which do not conform to the vessel dimensions set out in Appendix A and/or B of the RFP acceptable.

    Answer 3
    No. Vessels must be within the range of dimensions set out in the “Statement of Requirements” set out in Appendix A and/or B of the RFP.

    Rotterdam Class
    Length: 166.20 m
    Beam: 25.00 m
    Draft: 5.80 m

    EPV Specifications
    Length 130 – 140M
    Beam 16-20 m
    Draft 4.0- 5.0 m

    This tender better not go the way of the S90's......

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    Who said they were trying to sell us that class?

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    No-one, I just find bringing in two vessels of a separate class to the one specified in the tender, in order to sell one which would, a slightly unusual sales strategy to be honest.

    If it's just a display of the prowess of Schelde/Dutch ship building in general, would one not have sufficed?

    When I saw the dimensions I had visions of the other contenders crying foul if it had been selected, culminating in a cancellation and no EPV.

    Anyway, leaving my slight paranoia to the side, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

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    its not really the ships design or spec's thats on show, the shipyard were they were built
    sponsered the trip, the 'yard' are doing a sales pitch for the new contacts

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