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  • Originally posted by morpheus View Post
    Also he mentioned 24 new armoured light vehicles will be procured???
    That would be the 4x4 Armoured Utility Vehicles to fill the gap between soft skin Pajero and LTAV.
    The contract was awarded but that company went bankrupt or something.

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    • Originally posted by morpheus View Post

      When asked is there a personnel shortage and business knowledge drain crisis, he also stated that the GOCAC and COS had reassured him that there are no problems, therefore he believes that there are no problems, he has increased the cadet class sizes etc. yet there's a requirement for around 106 pilots (Open to correction) and only 70 odd pilots serving? 8 ATC's needed, 4 serving? 100 technician places open (is what ive heard said) and the GOCAC thinks that this isn't a problem?
      Hence the complete an utter disconnect between troops and anyone above LtCol

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      • Originally posted by TangoSierra View Post
        Hence the complete an utter disconnect between troops and anyone above LtCol

        Colonels are well aware

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        • Originally posted by TangoSierra View Post
          Hence the complete an utter disconnect between troops and anyone above LtCol
          i promise you that there is a very marked difference between what people know to be true, and what they are ordered to say, or ordered to not contradict someone else who reports that they have made particular remarks.

          of course, what the Irish military lacks - to its unending suffering - is a leaks culture. over the water its considered a career foul to have not seriously embarrassed a minister by leaking/unautherised briefing something that completely contradicts something a minister has said, preferably in parliament...

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          • But the difference, ropebag, is that in the UK, in political and military life, the tradition of falling upon one's sword exists, whereas in Ireland, no-one is to blame for anything. Ministers can piss away money on vanity projects and will not be expected to resign or lose their pensions/office/parliamentary seat. In the UK, every man and woman who enters politics or the military knows that his or her career has the potential to end in disgrace, whereas over here, you can get away with quite a lot.....pissing a few bob away on Defence never hurt anyone.

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            • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
              But the difference, ropebag, is that in the UK, in political and military life, the tradition of falling upon one's sword exists, whereas in Ireland, no-one is to blame for anything. Ministers can piss away money on vanity projects and will not be expected to resign or lose their pensions/office/parliamentary seat. In the UK, every man and woman who enters politics or the military knows that his or her career has the potential to end in disgrace, whereas over here, you can get away with quite a lot.....pissing a few bob away on Defence never hurt anyone.
              You could be right because according to kheogh, the p64 is only costing 40m he thinks, but he doesnt really know for sure!!!!

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              • Heard the interview. Keogh reminded me of someone after being on the lash the night before and was trying to remember the details of how they got home. Fair play to Williams he asked him awkward if not fully understood questions.

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                • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                  But the difference, ropebag, is that in the UK, in political and military life, the tradition of falling upon one's sword exists, whereas in Ireland, no-one is to blame for anything. Ministers can piss away money on vanity projects and will not be expected to resign or lose their pensions/office/parliamentary seat. In the UK, every man and woman who enters politics or the military knows that his or her career has the potential to end in disgrace, whereas over here, you can get away with quite a lot.....pissing a few bob away on Defence never hurt anyone.
                  We get what we deserve!

                  How often was Haughey re-elected ?

                  How often was Bertie re-elected ?

                  The connection - the grey vote

                  Will only ever vote Fianna Fail and won’t vote for any other party. Rewarded with old age pension increases

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                  • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                    That would be the 4x4 Armoured Utility Vehicles to fill the gap between soft skin Pajero and LTAV.
                    The contract was awarded but that company went bankrupt or something.
                    Toyota landcruisers. New company selected to fit them out.First 6 already delivered.
                    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                    • Originally posted by ropebag View Post
                      i promise you that there is a very marked difference between what people know to be true, and what they are ordered to say, or ordered to not contradict someone else who reports that they have made particular remarks.

                      of course, what the Irish military lacks - to its unending suffering - is a leaks culture. over the water its considered a career foul to have not seriously embarrassed a minister by leaking/unautherised briefing something that completely contradicts something a minister has said, preferably in parliament...
                      Whistleblowers and people who leak info have not been treated very well by the political establishment in Ireland. Just look at Air Corps. Not even people dying with serious illness caused by chemicals is phasing government ministers

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                      • Originally posted by TangoSierra View Post
                        Whistleblowers and people who leak info have not been treated very well by the political establishment in Ireland. Just look at Air Corps. Not even people dying with serious illness caused by chemicals is phasing government ministers
                        They aren't from the ministers constituency. Their lives matter not.
                        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                        • Has there been any info on the grapevine about what sort of fitout the new aircraft will have regarding it's PAX and cargo transport and ISR role? Be interesting to see what it comes with, and from previous posts it seems like 2 will have the kit, and one a transport. Interesting to hear any updates.

                          Also, any chance of a few extra in future?

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                          • Originally posted by meridian View Post
                            Has there been any info on the grapevine about what sort of fitout the new aircraft will have regarding it's PAX and cargo transport and ISR role? Be interesting to see what it comes with, and from previous posts it seems like 2 will have the kit, and one a transport. Interesting to hear any updates.

                            Also, any chance of a few extra in future?
                            Yeah im sure that that sort of information would be freely available and in the public domain.

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                            • Originally posted by Turkey View Post
                              Capable of what exactly? anything expensive or ''warry'' for them won't be bought, and they will never be allowed out of gliding range of land, because the sniveling serpents would have a fit if their paint gets scratched, much less end up with a dip in the ditch, they don't facilitate twin training, about the only thing they add is a slightly more reasonable parachute capability, which could have been got buying a old Anatov, for about €25000.... Apart from that, their fine.
                              Your response is littered with ignorance.

                              The reality is you have absolutely zero appreciation for what it may or may not be capable of. Submit an FOI and support your assertion.

                              If you are PDF, you may be pleasantly surprised. If not, then it really isn't any of your concern. Stick to what you know.

                              Ill ask the question again, what opportunity was lost exactly?

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                              • For a start, I doubt very much if a single parachute jump will ever be made out of a PC-12, in AC service. The demands on the aircraft for dropping parachutists of any type require modification to doors and the fitment of wind deflectors and a strip out of the interior so that's highly unlikely to happen. As for cargo hauling of any kind, it'd probably be of the type done by the King Airs whereby a package was carried loosely aboard, unless they actually come with a reinforced roller floor, which is essential for palletised cargo. So, I suspect that the Don will do as they have always done, which is, figure out actual utility on the hoof. The first six months has always been critical in Don aircraft because organisationally, the learning curve is a vertical line. This is not unique to the Don but given the current state of the manpower establishment, it could get quite tight when it comes to numbers. The best way for an organisation to absorb a new type into the fleet is to train hard and train early so that you build up a solid core of experienced manpower at all levels and you get the new type absorbed into the spares and computer and records system. You have to be able to cope with losses of manpower due to retirement and resignations and the best time to do it is when the aircraft is new.

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