Thanks Jetjock, your correct, my oops!
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostC252, wash your mouth out with Army soap. I managed to claw my way up to 11,000 feet in a tatty old 182, to throw meatbombs out,so FLs on 1013 were routine.
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GttC
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Originally posted by Jetjock View PostWhere the IAC Cessnas live it's usually around 6000' so routine might just be the most accurate word there is.
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View PostI Know its all OPSEC, but, I don't think 6000ft is the routine alt for most C-172 ops, except for Para ops most flights are around 1000ft.. I know its splitting hairs but these machines aren't cruising around in the flight levels for any practical purposes..
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The reference to the freezing level was not made in relation to parachute ops, more in relation to en route transit on other mission types. God knows I've done enough diver driving through the gaps to keep the self offloading freight happy to do me a lifetime. I'd never incriminate myself and admit to doing anything like a GPS spot while VFR on top though!
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So back on topic here's a list of candidates. I have split the list between single and twin engine aircraft. The only criteria I have applied is to provide an enhancement in capability over the legacy FR172 and for fuel type to be Jet A1. I have discounted the PC6 for its tail dragger configuration and also the PC12 and Socata TBM for being pressurised corporate transport with little role flexibility.
Single Engine:
Quest Kodiak ($1.7m)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_Kodiak
Cessna Caravan($2.1m) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_208
PAC 750 XL($1.9m)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC_750XL
Gippsland GA10 (price unknown) http://www.gippsaero.com/aircraft/ga10.aspx
Twin Engine
DA42/DA42 MPP (price unknown)
http://www.diamond-sensing.com/index...a42mppguardian
Vulcanair AP68TP (price unknown)
http://www.vulcanair.com/userfiles/f...2023-06-11.pdf
Defender 4000
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/defender-4000/
Thoughts?
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The Caravan wins for me, based on being part of the Cessna spares network, being easily available in large numbers, being the most numerous, having the largest load-lifting capacity, having the proven means to fit pylons, having the proven means to fit a load belly pod, being easily changed out for reroling. It also has the greatest corporate knowledge of flying and maintenance, compared to the other contenders; ie, there is no shortage of Caravan-qualified personnel or third-party companies providing support services, such as spares, crew and engineering training. There probably isn't a country in Europe that doesn't have Caravans operating in it, with the possible exception of the Vatican! The Kodiak is next because it is in relatively large scale production and is in this hemisphere, so spares and support are only a short airline flight away. The PAC 750 and Airvan are also good platforms but are in comparatively small scale production and the Airvan has the smallest engine and they are on the other side of the world.
regards
GttC
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