Light Tactical Armoured Vehicle: Second attempt.

[easyrider]

Wasn't it in the LTAV specs that at least some of the vehicles had to have a retractable sensor mast?

[Goldie fish]

No more Manpacking the ground radar....

[paul g]

Given the first tender, the following choice is quite intresting.



Thales has been selected as prime contractor for Luxembourg Army tactical reconnaissance capability. The Protected Recce Vehicle (PRV) contract calls for delivery of a tactical reconnaissance capability integrated with KMW Dingo 2 vehicles for the Luxembourg Army.

The Luxembourg Ministry of Defence mandated the NATO Maintenance & Supply Agency (NAMSA) to conduct the competitive procurement procedure for this programme. Prime contractor responsibility was awarded to Thales. The company will deliver 48 vehicles by the end of 2010.

The PRV contract will provide the Luxembourg military with a tactical reconnaissance capability that is particularly well suited to allied operations. Key requirements include the interoperability of the solution under development, combined with mobility, protection and observation capabilities.

This tactical reconnaissance capability will be integrated on Dingo 2 4×4 vehicles from Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW), which offer the high level of mobility and protection required by the Luxembourg forces.

The vehicles will be equipped with:

* A protection system based on the Protector remote-operated turret from Kongsberg, combined with laser detection systems and smoke grenade launchers.

* A complete observation system, including a long-range system integrated with a telescopic mast (already selected by France and Belgium), guaranteeing protection, discretion and rapid deployment thanks to all-weather optronic sensors and an off-vehicle surveillance system with Sophie MF handheld thermal cameras

* A C4I system based on proven HF/VHF communication equipment (PR4G, TRC 3700 HF) and a tactical situation awareness system (T-BMS) to allow vehicle integration with an interoperable reconnaissance unit.

These subsystems will be interconnected via an innovative open electronic architecture called the Open Information Communication System, designed to optimise integration and enable information exchange both within vehicles and externally. This innovative architecture reduces integration risks, speeds up the tempo of operations, manages all platform systems in real time and allows optimised support services.

[luchi]

Would be an interesting sight on a CIT escort.

Have noted that to drive this, a member of the DF would have to possess a C1
classification on his/her AF154 - as it is 7.1 T in weight... i.e; have a TCV licence.

That in iteslf would severely limit the DF's driving pool straight off for driving this
beast

That depends on how the vehicle is classed. cargo or TC
Cat D1 is 8-16 pass, Cat D is 16+ more than 9m
Cat C1 is cargo 4 to 7.5T and Cat C is 10T+
If it is a STCV ie less than 8 seats then since even though exceeds 4T it does not required a C1.
so only B required.

But if it is intended for Cav use then D.Cav can decide what AF154 is actually required.

TD, Surely a vehicles such as this will fit into the same category as the Mowags and Panhards in the DF? It ....................................... As I understand, there is no longer a requirement to have the TCV done before doing a Panhard driving course, as it is not a troop carrying vehicle(as the Mowag might be). You do need to have the Basic Nissan 154 though.
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Like Dev I thought all Panhard etc would be Mod 4. But with the breaking up of the mod3 I can see why D.Cav would jump from Mod2 to Mod4 in this case.

The LTAV is intented to replace the GS/FFR in some roles (in infantry, engineers, etc). The training & necessary 154s is inline with civilian driving licence legislation..

The AF154 is not in line with civvi legislation. It comes close but still not there.

[Goldie fish]

No tenders yet?

Shall we wait till we lose our soft skin vehicles to ieds in chad first? Do nothing, and hopefully the problem will go away...

[Come-quickly]

I think shrinking budget + our necks being out in Chad and Kosovo = much potential for bad.

Don't you.

I note the yanks are trialling new vehicles in this class against future requirements, but given current operational pressures and the likelihood that the Defence Budget is going to dwindle we should purchase something off the shelf on a UOR basis.

[Fireplace]

Just how much has the market matured since the last attempt? As far as I'm aware the newer vehicles being developed(US MRAP etc.) are all much larger than anything that could be described as an LTAV. It wouldn't be a surprise if the eventual selection was available the first time.

[Goldie fish]

However, unlike last time out, we shouldnt be the first customers of this type of vehicle. For example, there are long delays geting the British Armys Iveco LTV into service.

[The Blue Max]

RG-32-M Galten

I know this has been mentioned before but the RG-32 M Galten which is in service with the Swedish Military are partners in the NBG. I have attached some pics of them in Swedish service and they seem to a middle ground between the Mowag/Iveco LATVs and something like the Cougar/Bushmaster.

It can be fitted with normal weapon station upto RWS

[Goldie fish]

Based on the South African Landmine experience in Angola, I believe. Definitely tried and tested.

[Come-quickly]

As long as it allows all round vis.

[Goldie fish]

As long as it allows all round vis.

You won't get an armoured vehicle with that that doesnt use a RWS...

[easyrider]

I see the German Army selected the Mowag Eagle IV, 486 being bought, deliveries to start this year.

[mutter nutter]

I know this has been mentioned before but the RG-32 M Galten which is in service with the Swedish Military are partners in the NBG. I have attached some pics of them in Swedish service and they seem to a middle ground between the Mowag/Iveco LATVs and something like the Cougar/Bushmaster.

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It can be fitted with normal weapon station upto RWS

I don't know, the Swedish military don't seem to like it, there are some "problems" with it...maybe it's just their one's but still.

[Come-quickly]

Anyone else see the Mowag Advert on the back of this month's An Cosantor and dream of a world where we bought 100 Eagle IVs and 100 Duros (armoured and unarmoured) off the shelf instead of pssing about?