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  • Soldiers would only get in the way. That said, it wouldnt rule out sending the wing and their flash new RIBs out there.


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • Originally posted by zone 1 View Post
      could that big crane on ethines flight deck be used for droping boats yet??????/
      whats down the line loads of accommodation

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      • Desperate Pirates stopped by EUNAVFOR Warship HNLMS TROMP



        On Friday, the 2nd of April, a new Pirate Action Group (PAG) made a fast approach on EUNAVFOR Warship HNLMS Tromp and were stopped in their tracks.

        The operation started when a slow moving surface object was discovered by EUNAVFOR Warship HNLMS TROMP who launched her Lynx helicopter to identify the target. The Lynx helicopter visually detected a Pirate Action Group (PAG) consisting of one mother skiff and two attack skiffs. In one of the attack skiffs a ladder was sighted.

        When TROMP was spotted by the PAG, the suspected pirates, in the two attack skiffs, started to approach her at high speed. As they closed to a distance of 3 nautical miles two bursts of heavy machine gun warning shots were fired by HNLMS TROMP. The two attack skiffs stopped their approach, attempted to flee and and threw several undefined objects into the water. Afterwards, TROMP boarding team found 12 suspected pirates and 12 barrels gasoline (200 litres). No fire arms or piracy related goods were found. The mother skiff was destroyed.

        Currently in the European Union Operation Atalanta more then 140 pirates have been disarmed and 25 PAGs have been disrupted. 3 PAG were disrupted in coordination with Seychelles Coast Guard and 2 PAGs with other Task Forces (NATO and CMF) operating in the Region.

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        • Is it just frequent reporting of the same incident, or are the Pirates starting to have a go at Naval vessels?


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
            Is it just frequent reporting of the same incident, or are the Pirates starting to have a go at Naval vessels?
            I was wondering that too...why are all the pirates suddenly making the same decision to attack Naval boats? Or maybe is it a case of pirates sighted...fire a few shots from the bow out of sight of the rest of the crew.....oh noes we're under attack :D
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            • Probably a diversion or trying to end the mission.

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              • I know it's Fox but check out the standard of comment here...makes you proud of IMO standards!

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                • I like the idea of trackin them with UAV's.. Since they only become 'pirates' in eyes of law when they're attacking another ship could make stoppin them easier if knw what they're doing!!
                  Life's short, party naked :-)

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                  • Have the AW139s or EC135s ever landed on LE Eithne?
                    For flight deck on Eithne Read 'anything but flightdeck'.

                    Eithne would be the vessel least deployable with her max speed of 19kts, handy for patrolling but when it comes to intervention not great.

                    Peacocks would be ideal given their faster speed, but their accomadation is primitive and would be hardship to say the least.

                    The PVs are even less suitable due to age, damage control and weapons, so Roisin and Niamh are the most likely suspects.

                    No need for an Army input , even ARW as this is stuff the NS do for a living and others learn from them.

                    But I wouldn't see it happening any time soon and not at least until the new ships arrive.
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                      Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
                      For flight deck on Eithne Read 'anything but flightdeck'.

                      Eithne would be the vessel least deployable with her max speed of 19kts, handy for patrolling but when it comes to intervention not great.

                      Peacocks would be ideal given their faster speed, but their accomadation is primitive and would be hardship to say the least.

                      The PVs are even less suitable due to age, damage control and weapons, so Roisin and Niamh are the most likely suspects.

                      No need for an Army input , even ARW as this is stuff the NS do for a living and others learn from them.

                      But I wouldn't see it happening any time soon and not at least until the new ships arrive.
                      very true unfortunately this will never happen with the resource available to us pitty. as u said the P51 class is the best option . when it comes to boarding Somali pirates with AK 47s and what ever else they have thats a massive step up from boarding trawlers we have been extremely lucky in the couple of armed boardings that we have meet no resistances....

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                      • South Korean navy pursues hijacked oil tanker

                        South Korean navy pursues hijacked oil tanker

                        A South Korean navy warship is in pursuit of a huge oil tanker, hijacked by Somali pirates in the Indian Ocean.

                        The 300,000-tonne Samho Dream, which was on its way from Iraq to the United States, has 24 crew on board, and is loaded with crude oil.

                        Reports suggest the Korean destroyer is fast enough to catch up to the tanker before it reaches the Somali coast.

                        Pirates targeting ships off the coast of Somalia made tens of millions of dollars in ransom payments last year.

                        South Korea is one of several Asian nations that have an anti-piracy warship patrolling Somali waters to guard against hijackings. Western navies are also trying to protect ships against pirate attack.

                        Volatile cargo

                        The destroyer now in pursuit of the South Korea-operated, Singapore-owned tanker was on anti-piracy patrol in the Gulf of Aden - one of the world's busiest and most dangerous shipping lanes.

                        It has been diverted some 1,500 km (930 miles) south-east of the Gulf to the area where the hijacking took place.

                        A South Korean official said the destroyer had been ordered to intercept the hijacked vessel on its expected route into Somali waters, according to Yonhap news agency.

                        He also expressed concern for the safety of the crew - five South Koreans and 19 Filipinos - but said the government would not negotiate with the pirates.

                        It is unclear what action the warship will take once it reaches the tanker.

                        The BBC's East Africa correspondent Will Ross says that it is extremely rare for any navy to use force once hostages have been taken.

                        Given the nature of the cargo there is also the risk of immense environmental damage, he adds.

                        Oil ambition

                        The value of the Samho Dream's cargo is estimated at about $170m (£111.7m).

                        Reuters reported that the US refiner Valero Energy Corp said it was the owner of the crude oil cargo.

                        It said a pirate source named Mohamed had said the ship was heading for Haradheere, the pirates' base at which many ships are held during ransom negotiations.

                        At least four South Korean ships have been hijacked by Somali pirates in recent years: a tuna ship with 25 crew in 2006, two ships and 24 crew (held captive for six months) in 2007, and a cargo ship with 22 sailors in September 2008.

                        The crew in that last attack were released after the ship's owner paid a ransom.

                        The first successful hijacking of a so-called Very Large Crude Carrier was of the Saudi-owned Sirius Star in late 2008.

                        Another VLCC, the Maran Centaurus, was taken last November and held for two months before a ransom estimated at between $5.5m and $7m was paid.


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                        • Dutch Marines retake pirate held ship

                          MV Taipan, a German flagged and owned container ship of deadweight of 12612 tonnes, was on route to Mombasa from Djibouti when pirates attacked and took control of the ship.

                          On the morning of the 5 April, 500 nautical miles east off the Somali coast, a Pirate Attack Group (PAG) attacked and got onboard the MV Taipan As the pirates boarded the ship the MV Taipan crew followed EU NAVFOR Best Management Practice, retreated to a secure strong room and locked themselves in; they were able to stop all engines and thereby disable the ship, before alerting EU NAVFOR that the ship had been taken. HNLMS Tromp was sent immediately to the scene and located the pirated ship.

                          Initially HNMLS Tromp attempted to negotiate with the pirates to avoid casualties but when it became clear that the pirates intended resistng, HNMLS Tromp launched a highly professional operation to recapture the ship. Marines from the TROMP have now boarded and retaken control of the ship from the pirates. The crew of 13 (2 German, 3 Russian and 8 Sri Lankan nationals) have been released unharmed. 10 pirates have been taken into custody.



                          EU NAVFOR Somalia – Operation ATALANTA’s main tasks are to escort merchant vessels carrying humanitarian aid of the ‘World Food Program’ (WFP) and vessels of AMISOM, and to protect vulnerable ships in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean and to deter and disrupt piracy. EU NAVFOR also monitors fishing activity off the coast of Somalia.
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                          • Nice to see a more pro-active responce been taken to the piracy problem. But also i think this will back the somali pirates into a corner & could lead to more aggressive tactics being used in responce.. Time will tell
                            Life's short, party naked :-)

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                            • Crew disabled the engines and locked themselves into a strong area.

                              One marine was shot/injured in the assault after negotiations broke down. Unknown pirate casualties
                              "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

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                              • Vessel hijacked on way to Kenya

                                Vessel hijacked on way to Kenya

                                NAIROBI – A Turkish-flagged bulk carrier en route to the Kenyan port of Mombasa has been hijacked, the head of a regional maritime body said yesterday.

                                Earlier in the day, Andrew Mwangura of the East African Seafarers’ Assistance Programme said that Yasin C had come under attack some 250 miles (402km) east of the port of Mombasa.

                                The hijacked South Korean-operated Samho Dream , which can carry more than two million barrels of crude and was seized on Sunday, had reached Somali waters, he added. – (Reuters)


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