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  • I bet there's a lot more to this story than what's in the Daily Mail.

    Why didn't the Marines use helicopters instead?

    How much of a bribe was offered to that tribal leader?

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    • It seems the british have decided enough is enough..

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15510467
      Life's short, party naked :-)

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      • Originally posted by easyrider View Post
        I bet there's a lot more to this story than what's in the Daily Mail.

        Why didn't the Marines use helicopters instead?

        How much of a bribe was offered to that tribal leader?
        Could someone translate this please?
        "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
        Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
        Illegitimi non carborundum

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        • Originally posted by Turkey View Post
          Could someone translate this please?
          I guess it means easyrider was part of the estimate process that determined the insertion method and execution of the mission... as for the bribe portion, conspiracy theory ??
          "On the plains of hesitation, bleach the bones of countless millions, who on the very dawn of victory, laid down to rest, and in resting died.

          Never give up!!"

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          • Originally posted by Mad P View Post
            It seems the british have decided enough is enough..

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15510467
            Has it anything to do with the shrinking RN being unable to protect UK shipping as was done in bygone eras.
            Maybe the ships insurers are demanding appropriate response to the threat.


            Have any Q ship tactics being tried,would have a serious effect on pirate morale assuming any survivors were able to RTB.


            On a different angle what sort of weapons are intended,what might be suitable to hold off boats at range would prob be unsuitable for use against actual boarders.

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            • Originally posted by danno View Post
              Has it anything to do with the shrinking RN being unable to protect UK shipping as was done in bygone eras.
              In fairness, that is probably part of it but there is a number of warships from all over the world and they still can't protect civilian vessels in a relatively small area.

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              • Q ships?


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • The allies used them to try to counter U-boats. Armed vessels disguised as unarmed merchant ships

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                  • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                    Q ships?
                    Anyone need a spleen ?

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                    • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                      The allies used them to try to counter U-boats. Armed vessels disguised as unarmed merchant ships
                      Captain obvious strikes again. it wasn't a question.
                      It was a suggestion.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Pirates seize oil tanker and crew off Nigerian coast
                        Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 12:13 PM



                        Pirates have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Nigeria’s oil-rich southern delta and kidnapped the foreign crew, reports say.

                        The attack happened off the coast of Port Harcourt, according to security sources.

                        An unknown number of foreign crew members remained held today as the pirates offloaded the tanker’s oil cargo.

                        The tanker was identified as the MT Halifax, a ship flagged out of Malta.

                        Analysts say the area has seen a growing trend of oil tanker hijackings as pirates target legal and illegal oil shipments moving out of Nigeria.




                        Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/...#ixzz1ceO5WhGC


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • British Navy captures Indian Ocean pirates

                          Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 07:06 PM


                          The Royal Navy has detained seven suspected pirates in the Indian Ocean, Britain's Ministry of Defence said today.

                          They were picked up by the RFA Fort Victoria about 350 nautical miles from the Somali coast, a spokesman said.

                          “The Royal Navy has once again struck a blow to Somali piracy operating in the Indian Ocean,” he said.

                          On Monday the supply ship, patrolling about 420 nautical miles from the Seychelles, received information that a Spanish fishing vessel had come under attack from a group of pirate vessels.

                          “The ship’s Lynx helicopter was quickly despatched to investigate,” the spokesman said.

                          “Once at the scene, the helicopter identified two suspect vessels, a whaler and a skiff, in the vicinity of the fishing vessel.

                          “The faster of the two, a skiff, sped away at over 25 knots as the helicopter gave chase.

                          “When the skiff ignored orders to stop, a specially trained sniper on board the Lynx helicopter fired warning shots ahead of the fleeing vessel which stopped and the suspected pirates on board were then taken to Fort Victoria via boat.

                          “Fort Victoria’s Royal Marines boarding team then boarded the whaler and another skiff in the vicinity. As a result of the day’s action, a total of seven suspected pirates were held on board Fort Victoria along with their whaler as evidence, with no injuries being sustained by either side.”

                          Permission was given to take the suspected pirates to the Seychelles for prosecution, the spokesman said.

                          “With Seychelles authority granted, this will be the first case to be heard there under a memorandum of understanding signed between the UK and Seychelles governments in July 2009.”


                          Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/...#ixzz1fJbxmYT8

                          Technically not an RN capture. RFA ships are civvy crewed.
                          Last edited by Goldie fish; 1 December 2011, 20:07.


                          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                          • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                            British Navy captures Indian Ocean pirates

                            Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 07:06 PM


                            The Royal Navy has detained seven suspected pirates in the Indian Ocean, Britain's Ministry of Defence said today.

                            They were picked up by the RFA Fort Victoria about 350 nautical miles from the Somali coast, a spokesman said.

                            “The Royal Navy has once again struck a blow to Somali piracy operating in the Indian Ocean,” he said.

                            On Monday the supply ship, patrolling about 420 nautical miles from the Seychelles, received information that a Spanish fishing vessel had come under attack from a group of pirate vessels.

                            “The ship’s Lynx helicopter was quickly despatched to investigate,” the spokesman said.

                            “Once at the scene, the helicopter identified two suspect vessels, a whaler and a skiff, in the vicinity of the fishing vessel.

                            “The faster of the two, a skiff, sped away at over 25 knots as the helicopter gave chase.

                            “When the skiff ignored orders to stop, a specially trained sniper on board the Lynx helicopter fired warning shots ahead of the fleeing vessel which stopped and the suspected pirates on board were then taken to Fort Victoria via boat.

                            “Fort Victoria’s Royal Marines boarding team then boarded the whaler and another skiff in the vicinity. As a result of the day’s action, a total of seven suspected pirates were held on board Fort Victoria along with their whaler as evidence, with no injuries being sustained by either side.”

                            Permission was given to take the suspected pirates to the Seychelles for prosecution, the spokesman said.

                            “With Seychelles authority granted, this will be the first case to be heard there under a memorandum of understanding signed between the UK and Seychelles governments in July 2009.”


                            Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/...#ixzz1fJbxmYT8

                            Technically not an RN capture. RFA ships are civvy crewed.
                            the Lynx was Royal Navy, the Marine Sniper onboard the Lynx is part of the Royal Navy, as are the Royal Marines who chased, boarded and captured the pirate vessels and detained the pirates.

                            if that is not Royal Navy capture then i don't know what is.
                            RGJ

                            ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

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                            • "EU faces warship shortage for Somali piracy mission
                              The European Union is short of warships for its counter-piracy mission off Somalia and is unlikely the fill the gap until
                              March given economic constraints, the top EU military officer said. Swedish General Hakan Syren, chairman of the EU
                              Military Committee, said the shortage would be a "problem", without going into further details. An EU military official
                              later played down the challenge, saying the shortfall would coincide with a period when pirate attacks normally
                              declined and the bloc would be able to sustain the mission. Pirates operating from the Somali coast have raked in
                              millions of dollars in ransoms from hijacking ships and a total of 243 hostages and 10 vessels are currently being held,
                              according to figures from EU Navfor, the EU's anti-piracy task force. A report earlier this year estimated maritime
                              piracy costs the global economy between $7 billion and $12 billion through higher shipping costs and ransom
                              payments. Syren said the EU operation, codenamed Atalanta, had a normal minimum force requirement of four to six
                              warships, depending on the time of the year, and this would not be met in the period from December until March.
                              "The ... commander has a minimum level of both maritime patrol aircraft and ships; and during quite a limited time ...
                              the number of ships is below the red line," he told a news conference after a meeting of defence chiefs of the 27 EU
                              states. "It's a problem. I am telling you the facts and it is really a problem ... and we have faced this before," he said.
                              Syren blamed the economic crisis, as well as fatigue from NATO's Libya operation, in which European NATO members
                              maintained a seven-month sea mission to enforce a U.N. arms embargo up until the end of October. "I can imagine
                              there are many different reasons for this, but one is of course economy - the budget cuts," Syren said. "The last year
                              of course ... many countries with these kinds of assets ... felt insecure about the situation in the Mediterranean Sea
                              connected to the Arabian Spring and the Libyan crisis. But primarily it's a question of resources." On the plus side,
                              Syren said, an EU training mission intended to help improve security within Somalia was making progress, and was
                              now training a third batch of almost 700 Somali soldiers. According to Navfor, 165 attempted attacks have taken place
                              this year, with 24 actually resulting in the hijacking of a vessel. British Prime Minister David Cameron announced last
                              month that British merchant ships sailing off the coast of Somalia would be able to carry armed guards to ward off
                              pirate attacks, bringing it into line with many other countries. Source: Reuter"


                              When will an Irish ship be offered for service? After all 98% of all we import is transported by sea. All the oil we use comes in by sea and I'm sure most if not all of it comes through the high risk area. The criminal attacks on shipping which are being carried out by groups from Somalia will impact on the cost of our imports. Jim Robinson ex OCNOC now President of the Nautical Institute was interviewed on Seascapes last week. He said that we cannot sit on our island in the Atlantic thinking that it does not impact on us. It does and it is time that we did our bit to keep the cost of our imports down.

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                              • Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
                                the Lynx was Royal Navy, the Marine Sniper onboard the Lynx is part of the Royal Navy, as are the Royal Marines who chased, boarded and captured the pirate vessels and detained the pirates.

                                if that is not Royal Navy capture then i don't know what is.
                                I'll remember this post when the 8 irish soldiers in afghanistan are taking credit for killing Bin laden....


                                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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