One of the areas open to representative associations to make representations on is changes in the entry requirements.
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well i think that theyre making a mistake by reducing it so severely, i do understand the need to reduce the age profile but I think they are handicapping themselves from taking peeps from industry with real experience who could add so much to the future of the defence forces.
Maybe even improve management and the overall structure by bringing in currently used industry techniques applicable to current problems instead of relying on useless civil servants and their pen pushing, penny saving paper mountains."He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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Bravo20 - why would it be a short term commission? If I (25) got in as an engineer into the cadets, I'd be finished in 21 months. If a 22 year old got in, he would do his 21 months, followed by a 4 year course (provided they passes each year and didnt repeat). which would mean that I would be ready to work fully trained a year younger than the current situation...and I am too old to go for cadets........doesnt make sense.
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Reading your comments with a wry smile... do yourselves a favour and dont bother with the ordnance corp.All of the members are trying to get out and morale is rock bottom. This is since the restructure and because of having to answer to infantry officers up the chain of command. They seem to be have it in for non infantry units.A soldier with four years training in a technical discipline can be employed on menial tasks and pointless duties.This is a complete and utter waste of resources. Plus because garrison strengths were slashed and their independence within a command taken away,their work load has increased dramatically because they are not allowed to choose what tasks to priotise.The men work well under constant supervision and cornered like rats in a trap
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CIS????
is that the IT section in the army???"He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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morpheus
taken from military.ie:
Communication and Information Services (CIS) Corps
Formerly the Army Corps of signals, this corps is responsible for providing all communication and information technology services to the Defence Forces. This role includes the development and maintenance of a countrywide private Defence Forces Telecommunications Network (DFTN), which can support both voice and data services, and the provision, and maintenance of military radio equipment for use by Defence Forces personnel at home and abroad. The DFTN provides advanced telecommunications services including desk to desk dialing and networked IT services such as E mail, Internet and Intranet access, as well as fax and paging services. The CIS Corps also provides communication links to all overseas missions including a satellite link from DFTN to Irish Transport Company, Kosovo and Irish Guard, Eritea for voice and data.
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Kermit - I have a degree in manufacturing engineering. (also a cert and dip in mechanical) Manufacturing is basically mechanical but instead of doing a subject called Thermal and fluid, you concentrate on management ....in my opinion just as useful in the army as each other.
The unfortunate thing (for me ) is that the Army will only consider my discipline of engineering for the Ord corps...
I would love to do a cadetship so I could work anywhere in the army but I am a year too old!! The IDF have a cap of under 25 where other armies have it at 30.....
Any suggestions?
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Become Taoiseach and reset the age limit.
Seriously thogh, I know how you feel, I`m 27 and originally missed out on Air Corps cadet by 7 days. pain in the arse.
I`m trying to get into it still now that I hear CIS sometimes take in direct entry, but I mean they dont advertise these positions publicly, (at least not to my knowledge) so how can they take in direct entry people????
I`ve a National certificate, a National diploma AND Bachelors degree in computer Science and 3 years experience. and I doubt I would get in either.
If only i could go back in time, i would have gone leaving cert ----> Air corps.:confused:"He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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