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    EX-IAC Aircraft Across The World

    Hi Folks!

    I have compiled some data of ex-IAC aircraft around the globe with links to photos of them available online. Hope you find it interesting. Information from various sources. It's a time consuming work in progress so please bear with me. More to follow. If you have any info to add please do.
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    Supermarine: Walrus
    IAC Reg: N.18
    Comments:
    939 - Built at Woolston, Southampton for the Fleet Air Arm to Specification 37/36, contract 5344422/36; Diverted prior to issue to Irish Army Air Corps; 24/02/1939 - First flight wearing 'B' condition markings; Serial N18 applied; 03/03/1939 - Set off for Baldonnel, Dublin along with L2302 and L2303 still wearing 'B' markings, forced landed on water off Wexford coast, wings damaged, crew Lt Quinlan and Lt Higgins, put into Wexford and completed journey by road; 09/01/1942 - Four Irish nationals stole the aircraft and attempted to fly it to Cherbourg to join Luftwaffe, escorted into St Eval by RAF Spitfires, aircraft and its crew returned under guard to Ireland; 1943 - Noted wearing camouflage; Based at Rineanna (Shannon Airport) with 1 Sqdn IAAC on west coast patrols; 02/08/1945 - Sold to Aer Lingus; 22/08/1945 - Allocated EI-ACC, does not appear to have been used by Aer Lingus; 1946 - Up for sale; 11/1946 - Bought by Wing Cmdr RG Kellet for 615 (County of Surrey) Sqdn RAuxAF as a squadron hack for £150; 12/12/1946 - Registered as G-AIZG; 03/1947 - Ferried Dublin to Biggin Hill via Croydon for customs by Flt/Lt FB Sowrey and Kellet, used for bathing parties along south coast by sqdn members; 1948 - Retired; 1949 - Noted on dump at Thame in Oxfordshire; 1963 - Recovered by Historic Aircraft Preservation Society, bought by two members (Snaddon and Fisher) for £5 and handed over to FAAM; 01/1964 - To RNEC Arbroath for restoration; 06/06/1966 - Handed over to FAAM; 06/12/1966 - Arrived at FAAM. (Source FAAM)

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    Avro Anson XIX
    IAC Reg: 141
    Comments: Delivered new 10/04/46.Upon withdrawal was used as instructional airframe into 1970's Rebuilt for static display in 1980's. Currently in IAC museum collection in Baldonnel.
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    Spitfire T.9
    IAC Reg: 158
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    Built at Castle Bromwich as an LF.IX, MJ627 was delivered to 9 MU on December 4,1943 and stored. It entered service with 441 Sqn on September 28th 1944,Credited with a BF 109, but after an accident on March 9th 1945, it was stored at 29 MU until July 1950 when it was sold to Vickers.The company converted it into a T9 trainer and it bore the B-Conditions marking G-15-171. Converted post war by Vickers to T.9.Delivered IAC June 1951. Sold 1963 and stored dismantled in Biggin Hill. Rebuilt at Coventry with first flight in Nov 1993. Belly landing 1998 and repaired. Current as G-BSMB.

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    Spitfire T.9
    IAC Reg: 159
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    Manufactured 1943. Served with the Free French. Participated in June 1944 D-Day Normandy Invasion. Delivered IAC June 1951. Retired Jan 1960 with TTAF: 1402 hours.Sold 1963. Rebuilt at Elstree with first flight in 1967. Apperared in film Battle of Britain in 1968. Belly landing July 1968 and repaired. Sold in America and registered as N8R. Ground looped in 1981 and rebuilt as single seater in 1982. First flight post rebuild 1985. Displayed at Boeing Museum of Flight 2000-2003. Loaned to EAA Museum in Oshkosh, 2004.

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    Spitfire T.9
    IAC Reg: 161
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    Built as LF.IX at Castle Bromwich in 1944 and delivered to 33 MU on September 18th. Then to 84 Group Sipport Unit on October 9th and to 33 Sqn on October 19th. Back to 84 GSU in December, transferred to 83 GSU on January 20th 1945 and to 412 (RCAF) Sqn a few days later. Unit returned to UK in May 1945 and PV202 went to 83 GSU on 31st and then 29 MU on July 29th for storage. Sold to Vickers-Armstrong on July 19th 1950 and converted to a T9 trainer for Irish Air Corps, tested as G-15-174.Delivered IAC June 1951. To Instructional Airframe 1960-1968. Sold 1968 and stored. Rebuilt with first flight Feb 23rd 1990 at Dunsfold as G-TRIX. Sold to Greg McCurrach, SA, 1990. Destroyed in a fatal crash April 8th 2000, killing McCurrach and Norman Lees. Rebuilt by Historic Flying UK Ltd and registered G-CCCA. Painted in ex-IAC colours with first flight Jan 13th 2005. Repainted in RNLAF colours in 2007.

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    Spitfire T.9
    IAC Reg: 162
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    Built as an LF.IXc at Castle Bromwich, ML407 was delivered to 33 MU on April 23rd 1944 and ferried to 485 Sqn (RNZAF) on April 29th. On December 28th 1944 it was reassigned to 145 Wing of 2nd TAF but on January 4th 1945 it joined 341 (Alsace) Sqn, a free French unit in 131 Wing. Subsequent units were 308 Sqn, 349 Sqn, 485 Sqn, 345 Sqn, and 332 Sqn. After passing to 151 Recovery Unit in Belgium on April 26th 1945, ML407 returned to the UK and went into store on September 27th that year. Sold to Vickers on July 19th 1950, it was converted to a T9 trainer as G-15-175. Delivered IAC July 1951. Last operational flight July 8th 1960. Instructional Airframe 1962-1968. Sold 1968. Purchased by Nick Grace 1979. Rebuilt with first flight 16 April 1985. Crash landed at Southend 05/03/1986. Carolyn S Grace 1989-present.

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    Spitfire T.9
    IAC Reg: 163
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    Delivered IAC July 30 1951. To instructional airframe 1961-68. Sold May 8th 1968. Flown in film Battle of Britain 1968. Shipped to Toronto 1970. Registered as C-FRAF 1975. Sold in US as N92477 in 1975.Sold 1979 as N308WK. Currently with William S Greenwood, Aspen CO.

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    Percival Provost T51
    IAC Reg: 177
    Comments: Delivered IAC 26/03/54 as new aircraft. Currently flown in IAC colours in the UK as G-BLIW.

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    DH.115 Vampire T55
    IAC Reg: 185
    Comments: Delivered to IAC 21/07/56. Currently preserved in IAC colours in France at Musee du Chateau de Savigny, Chateau Savigny le Beaune.

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    DH.115 Vampire T55
    IAC Reg: 186
    Comments: Delivered IAC 21/07/56. Sold to US. Noted stored Tuscon AZ 1981. Registered as N4861K to William G. Dilley, Ogden Utah. Last known photo 1982. Current status unknown.

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    DHC.104 Dove Mk 8A
    IAC Reg: 201
    Comments: 13 Jul 1961 the aircraft was registered as G-ARSN by the deHavilland Aircraft Company.1961 The aircraft was put into storage. 9 Aug 1967 the aircraft was acquired by the Irish Department of Transport and Power.16 Aug 1967 the aircraft was re-registered as EI-ARV. 18 Dec 1970 the aircraft was acquired by the Irish Air Corps and re-serialed as 201. wfu and re-registered as G-ARSN. 15 Jun 1983 The aircraft was re-registered as G-LIDD by Acme Jewellery Ltd. Sold to Australia and registered in Australia as VH-OBI.
    30 Jul 2002 The aircraft was acquired by Titan River Pty Ltd. P.O. Box 78, Tocumwal, New South Wales, Australia, 2174. It was operated with the titles "Air Champagne". Current Status Unknown.

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    Fouga CM.170 Magister
    IAC Reg: 217
    Comments:
    Ex-Austrian AF. Delivered IAC 16/02/76. Returned to Austria dismantled on March 29/30 2005 on board Austrian AF C-130 Hercules for display in museum at Zeltweg. Repainted in Austrian AF colours.

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    SA330J Puma
    IAC Reg:242
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    Built as VIP heli for Ethiopian AF. Reworked to SA330L standard. Became F-WRQK then F-BRQK in July 1980. Delivered to IAC as 242 in July 1981. Returned 1983. Became F-ZLAT. In use as test aircraft.

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    SA330J Puma
    IAC Reg:242
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    Built as VIP heli for Ethiopian AF. Reworked to SA330L standard. Became F-WRQK then F-BRQK in July 1980. Delivered to IAC as 242 in July 1981. Returned 1983. Became F-ZLAT. In use as test aircraft.
    is this the one we borrowed for the Pope in79


    great idea Jet Jock- very interesting reading
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Hi hedgehog,

    They were different helis.That helicopter was a German Border Police-Bundesgrenzschutz machine borrowed for the duration of the Pope's visit and returned afterwards. It remained in Bundesgrenzschutz colours and had the word GARDA crudely applied to the side of the aircraft.

    The Puma in question, IAC serial 242, was leased from Aerospatiale from 1981-1983 and flew in full IAC colours. It should have been purchased outright, but was returend to the lessor in Feb 1983. Photo in IAC colours here.

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    thanks- I take it that was our first green helicopter

    and on that note

    why did the IAC paint the helis silver- Alloutte- Gazelle- Dauphain
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    No probs!

    As regards the silver paint scheme. That is a very good question, but the most likely answer is that silver was the standard colour for all IAC aircraft at the time. Chipmunks, Vampires, Provosts, Doves all wore silver with day glo orange for higher conspicuousness.

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    Our (Air Corps) Puma had a very distinctive, if not unique nose mounted weather Radar also.

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    Should soon be able to add Dauphins and Gazelle to that list given recent coverage here.

    Very interesting, thank you for that.

    Would the ex IAC on static display throughout the country be worth a display also seeing as the Chipmunk 173 got a mention in this months 'Flypast'

    I rememeber from my time as a volunteer with the South East Avaition Enthuiasts ' group in Waterford rescuing three aircraft from the fire dump at the Don..and taking delivery of the above mentioned Chippie. all between 1984 and 1987.
    Just visiting

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    Hi there
    With regard to the Dove that ended up in Australia, a letter came to Baldonnel from the new operators, inviting any Donners in Oz to show up for a flight.Much to their surprise, a big joblot of lads who had gone to Qantas in 1988-90 turned up and all were accommodated by the new owners....the Provost,177, has been back to Baldonnel, at least once.There was a story going that when the new owner of the Provost asked the DoD for permission to wear Irish colours, he was told off in a snotty letter from some desk jockey,but wisely, told em to stuff it and put up the roundels anyway.
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    Thanks for the comments lads. I have more info to add in the coming days. I will edit the main post in order to maintain the sequence and submit a new post to the topic notifying any changes.
    Murf I think you are right, the list would lack completeness without the aircraft on display in Ireland. Will get going on that over the coming week. If you have any info to add from your time with the South East group it would be interesting to hear. I saw Joe Mc Dermott's photos of 173 back in one piece at Dromod over on irishairpics. Will include a link to it as I amend above.
    GTTC, the letter re the Dove was published in the book "A View From The Tower" in the 90's. They were looking for spares and tools that might be lying around unused in the 'Don and they extended an open invite to IAC personnel. I'd say they didn't expect anyone taking them up on their offer! Bad news is the latest info I can gather is the company went belly up and VH-OBI was in the hands of the receivers and what happened to it is not yet clear. Hope it had nothing to do with the deluge of Donners!

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    nice bit of info regarding the Air corps aviation history

    Thanks Jetjock

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    Hi JJ
    I had the letter in my hand.It was posted in Maritime, Transport and Training and Engineering Wing.It was in circulation long before it ever made it into a book.Incidentally, such books were held in low regard as they were deemed "not to be in accordance with the facts" by the hangar staff, ie, they toed the official line.
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    If you have any info to add from your time with the South East group it would be interesting to hear. I saw Joe Mc Dermott's photos of 173 back in one piece at Dromod over on irishairpics
    Oh boy....! just ask..

    The one thing I do have to cherish about my time with this group is the tainted attitude I ended up with as regarding the lack of preservation and the knowledge of some of the fantastic aircraft that should have been preserved with this country.

    the idea that the GAA amongts others could gather funding from a myriad of sources for building on antagonistic principle s as opposed to what could have been spent on preserving our avaiation heritage.

    That political correctness and blowjobs were more likely to get one a muzseum rather than having aeroplanes and just becuse you didn't have the right adress or accent you couldn't have an avaition museum even if you did have a monopoly on vintage aircraft at that time in the country.

    If i started to descibe the shite that went on and what aircraft were smuggled out of this country and how the bastards in the dail looked away , I could rant for years.

    I have some photos of the rescues from the Don somewhere just have to get around to scanning them on..
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    Time for an update of this old thread methinks...

    A good one to start that just turned up on a street in Paris:

    For sale by auction and looking factory fresh:

    http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1198356

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetjock View Post
    Time for an update of this old thread methinks...

    A good one to start that just turned up on a street in Paris:

    For sale by auction and looking factory fresh:

    http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1198356
    Jesus, theres enough AIII'S on that site to equip a small african nation!!
    I wonder what the asking is??

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    30-40k a piece guide price. Non flying condition.

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    Think Meccano. thousands of small pieces of aluminium and steel flying in close formation.

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    German Border Guard Puma used during the Pope's visit in 1979.


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    Reading about the Walrus in the Original post, it said it was intercepted by the RAF with 4 Irish on the way to join the Luftwaffe in it! What's the full story there?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Ex IAC Gazelle 241 (Airliners.net). Based in the UK it seems but on the Hungarian registration. According to the caption with this photograph, the sticker denotes its participation in the FAI Helicopter World Championship in Moscow. Looking very bling these days.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Reading about the Walrus in the Original post, it said it was intercepted by the RAF with 4 Irish on the way to join the Luftwaffe in it! What's the full story there?
    I can't swear to this, but I believe one of the pilots later joined the RAF. Very odd story - could have really put the State in a very difficult position.

    Were the "Garda" Puma's crewed by German pilots with Garda observers?

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    I had heard that the guys flying to France to the Germans were intercepted by the RAF and escorted to a RAF base to refuel and be pointed home because the RAF thought that they were just lost and not on their way to the Germans

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    Sounds like a good basis for a book. It's got it all - airplanes, war, action, nazi's!
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by pym View Post
    I can't swear to this, but I believe one of the pilots later joined the RAF. Very odd story - could have really put the State in a very difficult position.

    Were the "Garda" Puma's crewed by German pilots with Garda observers?
    Not even. Bundesgrenzshutz pilots, Army Observer(Not Air Corps) and used to ferry the Garda Security detail. Officer in question got aircrewmans wings for his trouble. Back then the line between air corps and army was more vague.

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    Ex IAC 244. One of four ex IAC Dauphins now earning a crust with the Chilean Navy. There was plenty of life in those birds if a small amount of money(relative) was spent.

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Chile...1258af652cef3e

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    Excellent thread and post Jetlock .. very interesting ,
    luv the whine of the alouette

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