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    Quote Originally Posted by derfel_ie View Post
    do the DFI or Garda provide overt security for these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
    do the DFI or Garda provide overt security for these?
    Garda only. The usual rabble showed up to protest. Can't understand why.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Garda only. The usual rabble showed up to protest. Can't understand why.
    would be a fine thing if just the standard sentry was all that is required.

    good on the Garda to protect, pity the usual retards make it a requirement.
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    Goldie - any ideas what will be replacing those things?

    The URNU boats that is.
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    Didn't realise they were up for replacement.


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    I haven't heard that they are either, but they are 25+ years old, and very problematic.

    My very fuzzy memory recalls two of them berthed in Ballycastle about 8 years ago, and the CPO Engineer was bemoaning how mechanically they were heaps, and more bother than they were worth.

    Ironically the next day they rescued a yacht in Rathlin Sound - horrible place to get caught out.

    Just wondering if you'd heard anything.

    My monies on RIBS - if the URNU still exists in a few years...
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    The thing is, they or (similar) provided a useful port control platform in Gibraltar when needed urgently. Should a replacement become necessary, similar sized GRP or aluminium craft are available off the shelf, and built in the uk for under a million each. The fact that only 2 scimitar class were built would lead me to suggest that more Simitars would replace the archers, in due course.


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    FS Vulcain, another absolutely tiny French Minehunter, Currently in Cork.

    The size of this is hard to guage in this photo but the Port of Cork tug "Gerry O'Sullivan, while not longer is larger.
    She is 41.6m long.

    F.S. Vulcain by Goldie fish, on Flickr


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    She's really not a large ship at all!


    IMG_5450 by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

    The divers were out practising this morning, rather them than me in the river.

    IMG_5455 by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

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    From http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/europe/france.htm#7

    Vulcain class mine disposal tenders


    Displacement: 490 tons full load
    Dimensions: 41.6 x 7.5 x 3.2 meters (136 x 25 x 10.5 feet)
    Propulsion: 2 diesels, 2 shafts, 2200 bhp, 13.7 knots
    Crew: 15 + 12 dives
    Armament: 1 12.7 mm MG
    Dive tenders for mine clearance operations.

    Number Name Year FLT Group Homeport Notes
    M611 Vulcain 1986 ATL FGM Cherbourg
    M612 Pluton 1986 MED FGM Toulon
    M613 Acheron 1987 MED FGM Toulon diver training
    M614 Styx 1987 ATL FGM Brest
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    About the same dimensions as our old Sweepers .
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    About the same dimensions as our old Sweepers .
    No, the sweepers were huge in comparison.
    Displacement: 440 tons
    Length: 152 ft (46 m)
    Beam: 28 ft (8.5 m)
    Draught: 8 ft (2.4 m)

    Plus, you didn't have to worry about things like "compartments"


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    Well I served on Banba and Grainne and I seem to remember my bunk space was in a compartment .
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    RV Belgica (A962) in Cork today. Belgian research vessel, crewed by the Belgian naval service.


    RV Belgica (A962) by Brian Clayton, on Flickr


    RV Belgica (A962) by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

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    Jaysus, is anti-rust or fresh paint not heard of in Belgium?

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    L.E. Aoife should be joining Belgica on the Quay there later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    L.E. Aoife should be joining Belgica on the Quay there later.
    moored at Horgan's Wharf earlier.

    LE Aoife by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

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    Would you not be seriously embarassed to send that overseas in that condition ?!?

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    Its a working ship. Not always easy to paint sides of the hull while at sea... Also, depends what they are doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest View Post
    Would you not be seriously embarassed to send that overseas in that condition ?!?
    Shes coming up on Marine Traffic as BNS Belgica and prev photos show her looking even tattier.

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    Just home to DERRY for a short break and what has just tied up alongside promenade but 2 Dutch Navy Holland Class OPV! Apparently open to the public tomorrow. Very large, imposing well equipped ships but both currently without their Thales integrated mast. Oto Melara certainly have the weapons tied up with 76mm gun , Marlin 30mm [surprisingly large unit] and Hitrole 12.7mm. Visits are normally announced here in advance, ie Battle of the Atlantic commemorations, so wondering did they hit bad weather off Malin....will find out tomorrow. City is buzzing with the arrival of the Around the World Clipper Race. Pity none of the lads made it up from Cork.... been a while since Eithne and Roisin made the trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarsfield View Post
    Just home to DERRY for a short break and what has just tied up alongside promenade but 2 Dutch Navy Holland Class OPV! Apparently open to the public tomorrow. Very large, imposing well equipped ships but both currently without their Thales integrated mast. Oto Melara certainly have the weapons tied up with 76mm gun , Marlin 30mm [surprisingly large unit] and Hitrole 12.7mm. Visits are normally announced here in advance, ie Battle of the Atlantic commemorations, so wondering did they hit bad weather off Malin....will find out tomorrow. City is buzzing with the arrival of the Around the World Clipper Race. Pity none of the lads made it up from Cork.... been a while since Eithne and Roisin made the trip.
    Checked Frieslands track on AIS - http://www.shipais.com/shiptrail.php...&date=20120629

    They came around the North coast of Scotland, then spent some time doing 'something' overnight off the County Antrim coast.

    Looks like a planned visit?
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    Both Vessels as seen in Lough Foyle. I had presumed that they had a RIB bay p&s but it seems not. One rib bay to port and the other in the Garage aft. In this case on the helideck, which leads me to believe they may have had difficulty getting it back in the garage.
    A fine ship though. Will be even better once the mast is fitted.

    Irish Naval assets were busy last week of the South West coast on exercise. At least one is heading for Galway to the Volvo ocean Race.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post



    Both Vessels as seen in Lough Foyle. I had presumed that they had a RIB bay p&s but it seems not. One rib bay to port and the other in the Garage aft. In this case on the helideck, which leads me to believe they may have had difficulty getting it back in the garage.
    A fine ship though. Will be even better once the mast is fitted.

    Irish Naval assets were busy last week of the South West coast on exercise. At least one is heading for Galway to the Volvo ocean Race.
    They're training Cadets. Here til Monday.
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    They'll make nice posh yachts when they're decommissioned!

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