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    Id say all of the crew just want to get off the ship and go home. Thats how most of the eithne lads felt back in 2006.

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    Well done to the sea hags

    they should be met with all the works

    band- chief- families and speeches

    I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog View Post

    I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea
    I agree pity the top brass dont get the finger out!

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    A medal for doing the job you signed up to?

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    Never knew so many of my old buddies from school were in the Naval service. Met two of them that I hadn't seen in years. They were on the Niamh. Great work lads!

    Must dig out that old class photo, I reckon there's 10+ out of a class of 30 that are serving with the DF now (either PDF or RDF)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest View Post
    A medal for doing the job you signed up to?
    if you are military you should know that....whats the point or suggestion in your question

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden rivet View Post
    if you are military you should know that....whats the point or suggestion in your question
    Originally Posted by hedgehog

    I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea

    There was no point or suggestion apart from the admittedly facetious "A medal for doing the job you signed up to?"

    What next, a medal for artillery people's time spent in the Glen, a medal for an EOD officer's time spent studying explosives.....

    Service is service, and kudos for that, and you have medals for that. Air sea or land.

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    do you spend 11 weeks in the glen...... the point is if the defence forces did not have un missions every one with a bit of service would have only one medal....that would look good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest View Post
    A medal for doing the job you signed up to?
    Try doing a 2 year sea rotation and then say there should be no need for a medal for so many years spent at sea.

    Over the years servicemen and officers have got Dsms and they were only doing the job they signed up to literally.

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    back to you tempest

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    I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea

    Elitism.
    Just visiting

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    Re DSM's being awarded, they are awarded for actions which are exceptional to routine work. Hence the DSMs for naval service personnel who have acted exceptionally in fire and rescue situations. Ditto for Air Corps crew who have been awarded DSMs for rescues which were at or beyond the limit of what would be considered do-able. However, Air Corps personnel do not receive medals simply for performing routine flying duties, will they start asking for medals if Naval personnel become eligible for some kind of 'days at sea' medal? It opens a pandoras box which the department would be loathe to have happen.

    I do accept that some DF personnel feel they have limited opportunities to be awarded medals, but that's just the nature of a small, neutral military who do not knowingly put their service people into front-line situations. If you want to win medals for soldiering, you've not picked a great employer in the DF. Not being cynical at all, or trying to start an argument with anyone here, just realistic.

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    Maybe the NS should look at a high profile foreign deployment every couple of year!, here would be 2 possible examples:

    1. The Med
    Resupply Irish troops with UNIFIL
    Participate in UNIFIL naval deployment
    Support for Enterprise Ireland (could include visits to Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Turkey etc)

    2. The Indian Ocean
    Resupply Irish troops with UNIFIL
    Participate in UNIFIL / EU NAVFOR naval deployment
    Support for Enterprise Ireland (could include visits to the above, plus Egypt, Saudi, Djibouti, Kenya, Tanzania, India etc)

    There is a cost factor but by bring in the resupply to UNIFIL and participate in UN mandated naval deployments (as well as supporting Enterprise Ireland) it should make good reading in a cost benefit
    analysis.
    Last edited by DeV; 27th March 2011 at 22:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog View Post

    I still think there should be some type of medal for time spent at sea
    Just had a chat with my buddy Enda from Castlebar,

    its all sorted, and will be issued immediately after the

    "Time spent on the Border" Medal.

    Connaught Stranger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connaught Stranger View Post
    Just had a chat with my buddy Enda from Castlebar,

    its all sorted, and will be issued immediately after the

    "Time spent on the Border" Medal.

    Connaught Stranger.
    Sign me up for that one!

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    What has held us back as a Nation and as a Defence Forces has been the sheer

    begrudgery- The NS are out in all weathers at all times and although they very rarely ask for

    anything in return- I seriously think a sea going medal should also be given to them.

    In the grand scheme of things it would cost feck all and it would show the appreciation of a Nation

    that the boys deserve.
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    I would disagree with a medal, but there should be some recognition of seatime, similar to the sleeve service bars worn by USN ratings.
    One for each rotation to sea.
    If nothing else it would expose those in the navy who avoid going to sea..

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    Any PVs doing the Baltic to coincide with the footie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    Any PVs doing the Baltic to coincide with the footie?
    im sure a few navy guys would love if you could send this to the commodore of the service for his urgent attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden rivet View Post
    im sure a few navy guys would love if you could send this to the commodore of the service for his urgent attention
    With a bit of forethought the NS could have deployed to the Baltic for manouvers with the Bundsmarine as a feature of the Aus/Ger BG.

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    I surgested this to Commander Jim Robinson in the early nineties, Six resupply trips would constitute a trip plus medal award. He put pen to paper addressed to FOCNS J.J. Kavanagh, he just filed it away. It was a very impressive letter. At least he tryed!

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