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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Yep. My HAIX are worn out now so I'm contemplating a replacement plus I need something besides my 24bs ( never got Magnums ) . I did the Lug walk in trail runners and TBH they were perfect so lightweights look like the thing.
    Are you looking to get purely "military" boots or would you be open to more civvie type boots?

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    something I can wear with in DPMs
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    Lowa Combat GTX.The only show in town.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Not exactly lightweights @975gm per boot .....but yes the gucci turbo boot all right. LOWA Zephyrs maybe, 550gm a boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Not exactly lightweights @975gm per boot .....but yes the gucci turbo boot all right. LOWA Zephyrs maybe, 550gm a boot.
    The Zephyr's are supposedly the dogs bollocks. Alas, RVOps don't stock them in black and I'm awfully weary of ordering off sites I don't really use. If you do go for them, would you be so kind as to let me know where ya ordered from?

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    Right I used the magnums this week for 2 battle pt's and not loving them at all, was wearing good socks but don't like them at all for battle pt anyway, so going to get something, has anyone any opinions on these

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/BATES-TACTIC...tactical+boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Not exactly lightweights @975gm per boot .....but yes the gucci turbo boot all right. LOWA Zephyrs maybe, 550gm a boot.
    If you're still looking at the Zephyr's, Amazon sell them now in black.

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    FOR SALE:

    pair of size 8L (large width fitting) brit army cold weather boots.

    Hardly ever used, certainly not enough to be broken in yet.
    had a look on ebay and none for under €90 plus P+P.
    sell for €80 ono.....
    pm for details. thanks.

    http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/im...-PRO-BOOTS.jpg

    not the exact boots but the same type.
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    Jesus the lacing on the steel toe Haix is an abortion, the hooks on Meindls are a thousand times better and the laces are better and not too short!
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    Stop press** DJ4 is no longer purchasing ANY type of safe toe boot except for the corps who need them most IE Whingineers and drop shorts.Normal issue of safe toes will continue to all as normal until stocks deplete EXCEPT for those deploying overseas/NBG and PDF/RDF pers attending tactical ,skills and career courses.Those pers will be issued soft toe boots**
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    FFS, I've just spent €200+ on Lowas because I was issued the POS safe toe haix. Typical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    Jesus the lacing on the steel toe Haix is an abortion, the hooks on Meindls are a thousand times better and the laces are better and not too short!
    http://bondsafety.com/army/

    Haix Tibet boots

    With the hooks rather than the loops as on the issue boots
    I got a set of these before I managed to get an issue pair for a course I did
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    http://bondsafety.com/army/

    Haix Tibet boots

    With the hooks rather than the loops as on the issue boots
    I got a set of these before I managed to get an issue pair for a course I did
    I got a set of these issued to me. The only people that got them were anyone who had a size 11 + they are better than the standard issue haix and don't bag out as much on the ankles. But they don't seem to be an a widescale issue,
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    They were issued because there isn't a size 11 boot (haix/magnum) to be got anywhere in the DF at the moment.Those,along with the magnum Vipers were a UOR purchase.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    They were issued because there isn't a size 11 boot (haix/magnum) to be got anywhere in the DF at the moment.Those,along with the magnum Vipers were a UOR purchase.
    I was one of the size 11 people...had to settle for 12...
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    we (RDF infantry unit) were told that we couldnt get tactical HAIX issue boots for the recent 72 hr ex in the FOB in the glen, that the barrack boot magnum is a "light operational" boot and would be acceptable instead.

    we were expected to carry out a small movement by foot from the admin legeur to the FOB carrying everything, over lobawn, into bog holes, through mud, by cavanaghs gap, down scree slope at black scar and into stranahealy... in light ops boots. My bergin and battlevest had a combined weight of 40+kg for this little soiree over a mountain in complete darkness. One guy was rescued because the GPMG wedged in the mouth of the sinkhole that opened up under him. his boots never touched the ground and only his arm wrapped around it kept him from disappearing completely.

    Absolute money pinching ****ery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    we (RDF infantry unit) were told that we couldnt get tactical HAIX issue boots for the recent 72 hr ex in the FOB in the glen, that the barrack boot magnum is a "light operational" boot and would be acceptable instead.
    Told by who? You were just bullshitted and took it, I was on a career course a couple of weeks ago most bods managed to get themselves issued the safe toe Haix, they are shite but might be a bit better than magnums, if timings were better we would have got the non safe toe(according to APOD). In a lot of cases RDF just accept no when the reason for it is just cadre or stores staff laziness.
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    came down from senior staff members in PDF BN, we were also fed the usual poo that this was a 48hr ex not a 72hr ex, after 3 other stories of drivers being turned away from main stores empty handed looking for kit requested on clothing forms that should have been shipped back to our home HQ barracks. sick of it at this stage.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    Told by who? You were just bullshitted and took it...
    that may be so, but its the unit responsibility - not the individuals responsibility - to see that each bloke gets the kit he needs. if the OC was fobbed off/lied to then thats the OC's problem (personally, i'd be unhappy about blokes doing the task/route/carry that Morpheus describes in glorified trainers..), the OC gets to decide whether to either make a fuss or crack on with it, making the wrong decision could have serious repercussions for RDF/PDF relations as well as the OC's own career, and knowing how our system works its quite possible that by the time the OC got the full and final 'no' it was too late to do anything about it.

    personally, if crap like this goes on - lack of mountain boots, lack of waterproofs etc.. i'd just buy my own. anyone who relies on other people to determine whether the need, or get, something as important as decent boots for doing the kind of ex Morpheus describes needs their head looking at.

    do you guys have such things as Service Complaints?

    letter to a TD might be in order - photo's of the landscape/terrain included?

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    What a load of crap.It was specifically stated in the exercise instruction order "Safety "annex that only operational boots were to be worn.
    As the exercise was 72 hours duration all the members of my units RDF exercise platoon who had not already been issued a pair were issued them.Your CoC should have insisted upon it.If neccessary your Pln comd should have reported the issue to the BN Comd.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    general question:

    how fussy is your CoC about what boots you wear on exercise?

    does it matter if they don't look like issue boots, does it matter whether they are black or brown - or even tan/sand?

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    You are entitled to "Operational Boots" (as opposed to "Light Operational Boots") for tactical ex's in excess of 72 hours. The brand isn't mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    What a load of crap.It was specifically stated in the exercise instruction order "Safety "annex that only operational boots were to be worn.
    As the exercise was 72 hours duration all the members of my units RDF exercise platoon who had not already been issued a pair were issued them.Your CoC should have insisted upon it.If neccessary your Pln comd should have reported the issue to the BN Comd.
    Not all of us did, but that was down to there not being enough boots in certain sizes in stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    came down from senior staff members in PDF BN, we were also fed the usual poo that this was a 48hr ex not a 72hr ex, after 3 other stories of drivers being turned away from main stores empty handed looking for kit requested on clothing forms that should have been shipped back to our home HQ barracks. sick of it at this stage.
    Morpheus - there is a general problem in getting kit at the moment. Some of the lads that serve with me haven't been able to get proper sized boots for months, and in may cases when stores do send them out to our unit, they issue the wrong size with a "sure its close enough" attitude.

    This will only get worse if logs get their wish and manage to consolidate to a single clothing store as is their longterm plan.

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