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  • #16
    Scratch is still there.It is still called scratch.Dont believe me look up the syllabus of training for the PDF Pots course.It will continue to be there.:wink:
    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
      A very interesting Documentary from RTE Radio 1, caused quite a stir at the time.

      http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/recruits.html
      When was that first aired?
      Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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      • #18
        The 82nd weren't the last platoon to do scratch.

        It's still there and as Apod said it's still called scratch.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by cooley View Post
          It can be hard sometimes but keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut. If you follow that you won't go too far wrong.

          Put 100%+ in at all times into everything. If you feel a little discomfort don't assume you're on your last legs and go sick. You'll see the same people going LD / ED again and again and again for the smallest of things and it is frowned upon big time.

          Remember what you learned during your time in the Reserve but don't act like you know everything.

          Savour your time off in barracks and the odd weekend you get home.

          It sounds like you're fairly fit which is great when starting as that will help you get on with the lack of sleep and make PT easy. Help your buddies and don't Me Fein though you may feel like doing it sometimes. Try and help the weaker ones and if you see any struggling or getting a hard time be there for them. Inject enthuasiasm wherever you can.

          Remember it's only 7 months which is not long.
          never heard of recruit training lasting 7 months where were you in the marines

          What good is in youth when it's ageing what joy are in eyes that cant see when there's sorrow in sunshine and flowers and only our rivers run free.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seven.sixtwo View Post
            never heard of recruit training lasting 7 months where were you in the marines
            He means until your fully trained as a 3star. It's 28 weeks training altogether to go from recruit to 3star Private, which is 7 months.

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            Would it be right to say that recruit-2tar training is the equivalent of Phase 1 training, and 2star-3star would be the equivalent of Phase 2 training in the British Army?
            Last edited by spaceghetti; 9 December 2009, 17:59.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by amurph0 View Post
              Would it be right to say that recruit-2tar training is the equivalent of Phase 1 training, and 2star-3star would be the equivalent of Phase 2 training in the British Army?
              There is a difference, all Irish soldiers do the equivalent of the British Army's Combat Infantryman Course (CIC) which is 26 weeks long. In the UK only infantrymen do this, others do a shorter course followed by trade training (phase 2).

              An Irish private does 28 weeks training (followed by more if in a corps unit).

              A British Army Gunner for the 105 does - Basic 20 wks plus 12 wks training to be a gunner

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              • #22
                Originally posted by seven.sixtwo View Post
                never heard of recruit training lasting 7 months where were you in the marines
                16 weeks going from Recruit to 2 Star.

                12 weeks going from 2 to 3 Star Private.

                All in all it's 28 weeks which is of course, 7 months.

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                • #23
                  Is the training tough for the 28 week period?? and is there any recruitment for next year has anyone heard??

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ARW09 View Post
                    Is the training tough for the 28 week period?? and is there any recruitment for next year has anyone heard??
                    At the moment the date for recruitment to restart is sill the 1st of January 2011.

                    Willie O'Dea is in talks with the Minister of Finance to try and get it back on earlier, but nothing has come of that yet.

                    Other then that there's no news on it.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hello Alaska View Post
                      It's still there and as Apod said it's still called scratch.
                      Its just called "Exercise Scratch" now.

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                      • #26
                        Scratch? What's that when it's at home?

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                        • #27
                          was listening to that documentary and that guy who drops out just seems like he wasnt cut out for it in the first place, wouldnt be ars3d with them flippin your beds, i dont take abuse etc!
                          I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                          Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                          Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                          And whistled early with the lark.

                          In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                          With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                          He put a bullet through his brain.
                          And no one spoke of him again.

                          You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                          Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                          Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                          The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by kermit
                            Fun! (not while it's happening though) - Runners, and an old uniform are required.
                            i bet it involves getting cold, wet, tired and messy
                            I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                            Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                            Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                            And whistled early with the lark.

                            In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                            With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                            He put a bullet through his brain.
                            And no one spoke of him again.

                            You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                            Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                            Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                            The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                            • #29
                              you better believe it, but its class......... when its over and you've got time to reflect (and breathe through the normal orafices)

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                              • #30
                                what exactly does it involve though?
                                I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                                Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                                Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                                And whistled early with the lark.

                                In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                                With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                                He put a bullet through his brain.
                                And no one spoke of him again.

                                You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                                Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                                Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                                The hell where youth and laughter go.

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