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    Not forgetting the Basic Divers Cse is one of the hardest courses (<15% pass rate) in the DF and is 10 weeks long

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Not forgetting the Basic Divers Cse is one of the hardest courses (<15% pass rate) in the DF and is 10 weeks long
    Dev,

    In this thread there has been a bit of discussion about the employability and under-utilization of reservists in the Irish Naval Service.

    What I posted was an example of how a neighbouring Naval Service employ a small number of their personnel.

    In no way did I suggest that the Irish Navy should do likewise...I merely sought to illustrate that it is possible to think outside the box.

    The regular RN Clearance Divers course is 20 weeks long...and like its Irish counterpart... its nails.

    If you've looked at the original link I posted you'll see that amongst those employed by the RNR as divers are a Fireman and an ex-Royal Marine Commando.

    In other words 'handy' boys...

    It takes 2-3 years to qualify as a diver in the RNR...they get trained and tested to the same standards as their regular counterparts.

    They are all also experienced divers before they apply (either commercial or recreational)...unlike their regular counterparts who join up with the intention of entering the clearance diver trade / bomb disposal trade.

    Another link -

    https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...o-a-new-career

    So by no means is entering the RNR Divers Branch easy...I'd imagine it takes a lot of determination, discipline and takes up a huge chunk of their spare time maintaining fitness.

    It is do-able...the RNR has shown that it is.
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    I’m not saying it’s impossible or shouldn’t be done.

    If we think the AR is in a bad state with regard to recruitment, the NSR is worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by spider View Post
    Have been reading this thread and came across this article today...I had no idea that this career path was open to reservists but thought it was an interesting example of how reservists can be employed...

    https://www.forces.net/news/how-do-r...divers-operate
    Eons ago the RNR manned most of the RNs minesweeping fleet so divers were a must.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Eons ago the RNR manned most of the RNs minesweeping fleet so divers were a must.
    I worked with a guy who had fond memories of training exercises on HMS Helford the NI RNR Minesweeper...which was sold to Bangladesh after the 90s defence cuts

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNS_Shaibal
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    I often wondered why the RN offloaded the River Class Mine Warefare vessels as fast as they did given most were relatively new.
    Time for another break I think......

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    They were very specific in role. Fine ships as a replacement for the ton class though. They will carry on for many years to come though, like the Peacocks have as patrol vessels in their new homes of Bangladesh, Brazil and Guyana.
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    Just bringing things back to NSR training topic. I've received dates for my NSR recruit training but I'm a bit confused about the weekend dates.

    The dates are three days from Friday to Sunday. I'm assuming most here are Army Reserve but I'm sure training timing is done on a similar format.

    What time would the Friday training usually start? Is it Friday evening on until Sunday evening or is the Friday a full day?

    Already taking two weeks leave for the FTT so hoping six more Fridays aren't also required!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    Just bringing things back to NSR training topic. I've received dates for my NSR recruit training but I'm a bit confused about the weekend dates.

    The dates are three days from Friday to Sunday. I'm assuming most here are Army Reserve but I'm sure training timing is done on a similar format.

    What time would the Friday training usually start? Is it Friday evening on until Sunday evening or is the Friday a full day?

    Already taking two weeks leave for the FTT so hoping six more Fridays aren't also required!
    My advice is following the directions as laid down in your Joining Instructions and then follow the procedures as required in Barracks. For new people it will be Admin , Uniform , wearing same, medical, and eventually drills and All arms. Don't get ahead of where you are and don't worry.

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    You will have to reach out to your point of contact to clarify the start time on Friday. In the past where I have seen Friday starts it is for an evening report time BUT I am a long time out of recruit training so you really need to CONFIRM with someone involved in the current process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    You will have to reach out to your point of contact to clarify the start time on Friday. In the past where I have seen Friday starts it is for an evening report time BUT I am a long time out of recruit training so you really need to CONFIRM with someone involved in the current process.
    I would have expected it be the evening. I'm certainly hoping it is as I work 8-4.30 and six extra days for Friday evenings would mean the annual leave requirements for recruit training would be 16 days (10 days for FTT also) in less than three months!

    It seems most of the other recruits are students or have more flexible employment so don't have the same issues with regards getting time off. I've also got the impression that some (or all) of the recruit training is done by the PDF so a day's training on a Friday wouldn't be an issue for them. It would just be a shame to not be able to complete the training due to not having the annual leave to do it.

    I've received joining instructions but there is no start time, location, transport details, etc (not sure if all training takes place in Haulbowline and some in the NSR home location). I just have the dates and kit list really.

    I only have email for my PDF contact and have followed up on that but thought I'd ask here to get ahead of myself with planning leave in work. Booking numerous days off isn't that easy where you're given only short notice and other people have holidays booked! :-)

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    I feel your pain Auldsod. It is pretty poor communication on behalf of the NSR not to include information on reporting times. It is also very short sighted of them (if this is the case) to require 6 extra days by training on Fridays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    I feel your pain Auldsod. It is pretty poor communication on behalf of the NSR not to include information on reporting times. It is also very short sighted of them (if this is the case) to require 6 extra days by training on Fridays.
    It seems to be a bit rushed due to usual medical delays etc. A lot of it's outside of the NSR's control really. I'd imagine they are trying their best to get the training going and get new recruits in so there is probably a lag with the finer details.

    Whether or not the six extra days are full days or not isn't confirmed yet but yup, it would be extremely short sighted if that's the case. Six Fridays off and another two full weeks on top of that out of fourteen weeks would be pretty exceptional. That's 8/14 Friday's out of work - I'm more than willing to give up my time but my employer might not!

    Here is hoping for a Friday evening start for all those!!
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    With regard to Friday start, it is highly likely to be Friday evening/night (but only unit can confirm)

    There is a focus in at least 2 NSR locations to getting people in, through the process and thought recruit training in an efficient and timely manner.

    Remember your training has to also fit around Accomodiation, instructor and training resources availability.

    It is definitely a positive move

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    With regard to Friday start, it is highly likely to be Friday evening/night (but only unit can confirm)

    There is a focus in at least 2 NSR locations to getting people in, through the process and thought recruit training in an efficient and timely manner.

    Remember your training has to also fit around Accomodiation, instructor and training resources availability.

    It is definitely a positive move
    I'm assuming the weekends are at NSR home location as transporting four locations worth of recruits up and down to Haulbowline over numerous weekends would be a logistical headache. If that's the case, I suspect an evening start.

    I must say that I'm impressed with my own locations push and drive to get things done. It has me very positive about the impending experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    I'm assuming the weekends are at NSR home location as transporting four locations worth of recruits up and down to Haulbowline over numerous weekends would be a logistical headache. If that's the case, I suspect an evening start.

    I must say that I'm impressed with my own locations push and drive to get things done. It has me very positive about the impending experience.
    Not 100% sure on that, could be Haulbowline

    I know there is definitely co-ordination in the recruit training between all the NSR units

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Not 100% sure on that, could be Haulbowline

    I know there is definitely co-ordination in the recruit training between all the NSR units
    I'll be getting well acquainted with the roads of Munster so.

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    NSR Recruit training is all carried out in the Naval Base under the Naval College, the instructors are NSR NCOs who are all SIC 2 qualified. Weekend trains begins on Friday evening when you are expected to report at 22.00 hrs, the 2 weeks full time training is long and hard, early starts and late nights, no shore leave and no drinking. It is hard for a reason , you are joining the Defence Forces. Enjoy it ,it only happens once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    NSR Recruit training is all carried out in the Naval Base under the Naval College, the instructors are NSR NCOs who are all SIC 2 qualified. Weekend trains begins on Friday evening when you are expected to report at 22.00 hrs, the 2 weeks full time training is long and hard, early starts and late nights, no shore leave and no drinking. It is hard for a reason , you are joining the Defence Forces. Enjoy it ,it only happens once.
    Hi Popeye, you seem to have some up to date info (I've not heard back from the NSR both PDF or RDF yet). I may hit the phones tomorrow!

    Reporting at 22.00 to Haulbowline - can you drive yourself or do you have to take the transport put on (which I'm sure it will be)?

    No shore leave or drinking sounds good to me. Better to put the head down and get through to it. Looking forward to the two weeks now. I'm sure it'll be tough but it's still only two weeks which is nothing on what the PDF recruits have to do!
    Last edited by Auldsod; 4th September 2018 at 19:56.

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    If your offered transport and it suits you, my advise is take advantage of it - there are enough costs associated with service in the RDF.... you won’t get mileage

    2 weeks.... treated the same, doing much (not all) of the same training, held to the same standards, same culture shock etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    If your offered transport and it suits you, my advise is take advantage of it - there are enough costs associated with service in the RDF.... you won’t get mileage
    Yeah, I do agree with regards the mileage but the hassle of getting to the NSR location and back again on Sunday would nearly make driving down worthwhile if allowed of course.

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    17 People have been notified by e mail as far as I know, transport will be provided so I would advise using it , why use your one when the DF are providing it. the first weekend is all safety briefs and A7 , hopefully kit will be issued as well, training programmes camn and do change, you will meet friends and get to see and do things that most people don't. The class in training were able to visit HMS Diamond when she was in , they were part of a ministerial GOH and were on security for same.
    Things are looking up the NSR and the Reserve in general, its an exciting time to be in the reserve, I only wish I was starting again.

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    I've got the schedule which is great. Great to see how well organised everything is and how much time other reservists are putting into the training giving up their own weekends to progress others.

    Late start Friday confirmed so I'm overjoyed anyway. It's averted the cancellation of a holiday and meant I can actually take some Christmas leave!

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    Good luck with the training if you spent a year or 40 years in the NSR you will experience things that most people never get to see or do , going to sea with the fleet is a unique experience.

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    Worth remembering also for those new to Haulbowline, the car park is quite a distance from anywhere training would take place.
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