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    Munster Match

    Just so that limerick shower wouldnt stroke the damn match ball!

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=OSPASk...eature=related

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    Cutbax, what cutbax?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    Cutbax, what cutbax?
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    thanks Willie for the lend of the Chopper. top that Leinster!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt View Post
    top that Leinster!!!!
    We have a road infrastructure in place, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua View Post
    We have a road infrastructure in place, thank you.
    bu which you mean GIANT CARPARK ya. one RTA and the east shuts down!!!!!!
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    looked fantastic on the telly but on a serious note
    when the helicopter flies off after dropping troops by fast rope does it
    1) drop the rope and fly off without it
    2) just fly away with the rope dangling below
    3) winch the rope back in

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    drops the rope, im sure!

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    definitely drops, there's a video clip on youtube (which i can't find at present) which shows the rope being dropped.

    EDIT: it's actually that one in the op, around the 1 min mark you can see it falling to the ground.
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    they used to deliver the ball from a Gazelle.think of the logistical effort and cost required to get that ball there.Personally,I'd have been more impressed if Moss Keane had thrown it in.
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    Complete waste of taxpayers' hard earned cash, IMHO

    And this is not a pop at Munster Rugby, before anyone starts.
    Would have said the same for any other province or sporting code
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    Air Corps Deliver Ball in Munster V's All Blacks game


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    so thats what the ARW do: deliver stuff

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    I dont agree that it was a waste of time or money. For one reason it was the offical opening of a fantastic stadium which deserves to be recognised. Secondly Limerick could do with a morale boost of any sort. Thirdly, The DF must maket their abilities to the general public to get rid of a public perception of out of date praticies. in a restricted economy as we have today the DF will have to fight for funding with a whole range of services so it does not harm to market itself when it can. in a previous post i mentionedthe british army sabre project where they raise funding from the private sector by running management programmes and charge large amounts of cash.

    Dont forget that helicopter belongs to the public. i am not suggesting for one minute that the air corp drop in on every event in the country but once or twice a year, it does no harm to show the public what they are paying for. After all the Navy done a super job of marketing their role in the recent drug seizure and the appointment of the first female captain. the army markets their role in Chad well. Since the air corp lost the sar role the general public does not see what they do. The Silver Swallows are now extinct Why pay for helicopters that do something that nobody sees. i realise fully that certain operational aspects will never enter the public domain and rightly so but now and again showing that they are part of a greater community ie society as a whole.

    several people (none pilots or DF) commented in work that the flying and fast roping display looked professional. So DF join the marketing era and sell yourselves. it may pay dividends in the long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffer View Post
    I dont agree that it was a waste of time or money. For one reason it was the offical opening of a fantastic stadium which deserves to be recognised. Secondly Limerick could do with a morale boost of any sort. Thirdly, The DF must maket their abilities to the general public to get rid of a public perception of out of date praticies. in a restricted economy as we have today the DF will have to fight for funding with a whole range of services so it does not harm to market itself when it can. in a previous post i mentionedthe british army sabre project where they raise funding from the private sector by running management programmes and charge large amounts of cash.

    Dont forget that helicopter belongs to the public. i am not suggesting for one minute that the air corp drop in on every event in the country but once or twice a year, it does no harm to show the public what they are paying for. After all the Navy done a super job of marketing their role in the recent drug seizure and the appointment of the first female captain. the army markets their role in Chad well. Since the air corp lost the sar role the general public does not see what they do. The Silver Swallows are now extinct Why pay for helicopters that do something that nobody sees. i realise fully that certain operational aspects will never enter the public domain and rightly so but now and again showing that they are part of a greater community ie society as a whole.

    several people (none pilots or DF) commented in work that the flying and fast roping display looked professional. So DF join the marketing era and sell yourselves. it may pay dividends in the long run

    excellent post.

    i agree, that its nice to see the DF in public and helping in the community and in a professional manner.

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    what a load of cock......

    1 minute to get two lads on the ground, i saw the RAF put 40 T/A lads on the ground in the same time,
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    with pratice hopefully we may see such event soon, but seeing as the sixth aw139 is just about to be delivered ( or just delivered) it might take some time. small steps at first Still it was a better sight than not, a flypast by several air corp jets with green white and orange smoke trails would be nice but aint going to happen anytime soon. you do the best with what you have and overall for the first time the air corp have done such a job (to the best of my knowledge) My point was marketing the DF to the public at such an event shows that the DF are part of society, the Brits Yanks and French do it well, Even the Russians, Chinese have military in public sight in a PR role, Why hide the DF Such events only raise public knowledge After the DF are the only armed force operating in a military role in the State, DF are the States military arm, not some bunch of terrorists who tried to ursurp the State

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffer View Post
    with pratice hopefully we may see such event soon, but seeing as the sixth aw139 is just about to be delivered ( or just delivered) it might take some time. small steps at first Still it was a better sight than not, a flypast by several air corp jets with green white and orange smoke trails would be nice but aint going to happen anytime soon. you do the best with what you have and overall for the first time the air corp have done such a job (to the best of my knowledge) My point was marketing the DF to the public at such an event shows that the DF are part of society, the Brits Yanks and French do it well, Even the Russians, Chinese have military in public sight in a PR role, Why hide the DF Such events only raise public knowledge After the DF are the only armed force operating in a military role in the State, DF are the States military arm, not some bunch of terrorists who tried to ursurp the State
    i agree with the idea of PR for the DF, but one Heli looks rediculous....

    and fast ropin two bods is embarrassing they could have had a section of so, that would have looked better, with two lads they should parachuetd in....
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    and fast ropin two bods is embarrassing they could have had a section of so, that would have looked better, with two lads they should parachuetd in....
    I have to say, I was kindof surprised at that. What was the purpose of the second lad?

    They did seem to be a little slow getting the ropes out, as well. More practise required. Any more stadia opening soon? Landsdowne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffer View Post
    I dont agree that it was a waste of time or money. For one reason it was the offical opening of a fantastic stadium which deserves to be recognised. Secondly Limerick could do with a morale boost of any sort. Thirdly, The DF must maket their abilities to the general public to get rid of a public perception of out of date praticies. in a restricted economy as we have today the DF will have to fight for funding with a whole range of services so it does not harm to market itself when it can. in a previous post i mentionedthe british army sabre project where they raise funding from the private sector by running management programmes and charge large amounts of cash.

    Dont forget that helicopter belongs to the public. i am not suggesting for one minute that the air corp drop in on every event in the country but once or twice a year, it does no harm to show the public what they are paying for. After all the Navy done a super job of marketing their role in the recent drug seizure and the appointment of the first female captain. the army markets their role in Chad well. Since the air corp lost the sar role the general public does not see what they do. The Silver Swallows are now extinct Why pay for helicopters that do something that nobody sees. i realise fully that certain operational aspects will never enter the public domain and rightly so but now and again showing that they are part of a greater community ie society as a whole.

    several people (none pilots or DF) commented in work that the flying and fast roping display looked professional. So DF join the marketing era and sell yourselves. it may pay dividends in the long run
    Again, a good post. Agree with everything you said. Fair play to all involved
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbocalves View Post
    i agree with the idea of PR for the DF, but one Heli looks rediculous....

    and fast ropin two bods is embarrassing they could have had a section of so, that would have looked better, with two lads they should parachuetd in....
    This was not a tactical exercise involving a drop of 40 personnel. It was simply a dramatic delivery of a ball to a stadium. I'm sure that the tactical aspects to the whole thing were by far secondary to the PR value to the public. To the entire stadium it looked good and professional and I've no doubt that it could have been done much faster if needed. The heli wouldnt have approached so slow for one thing.

    As regards the second lad, im sure there was a reason, clearing up the ropes off the pitch while the first guy presented the ball seems the most obvious one.

    Also as regards the cost, how much does a flypast of PC9s at Bray or Salthill cost? How much does slights for heli drills for the RDF or anyone else cost? These are operating costs, PR is quite necessary and as long as there isnt overkill there should be no issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbocalves View Post
    what a load of cock......

    1 minute to get two lads on the ground, i saw the RAF put 40 T/A lads on the ground in the same time,
    whats the point in flying in and out in a couple of seconds the crowd wouldn't of know what happen. it gave the public a chance to see the heli. so eh go join the T/A. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Dillon View Post

    Also as regards the cost, how much does a flypast of PC9s at Bray or Salthill cost? How much does flights for heli drills for the RDF or anyone else cost? These are operating costs, PR is quite necessary and as long as there isn't overkill there should be no issue.
    Totally agree. its all part of the job.

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    Hi all,
    It is a waste of public funds because, despite the spectacle of it, it's not new or innovative or different,as they have done it before and it uses up funds diverted from another part of the Don's budget, which would be more usefully employed.I guarantee from experience that someone has lost a course or a piece of kit or spares because of several thousand wasted on showy shit, that does not reflect the real utility of the DF.They got more useful PR from the airlift of the crashed Cherokee in Wicklow the other week, than this grandstanding, wasteful, expensive crap.If they want to do PR stuff, then let them create a PR budget, instead of hacking at training or provision of courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    Hi all,
    It is a waste of public funds because, despite the spectacle of it, it's not new or innovative or different,as they have done it before and it uses up funds diverted from another part of the Don's budget, which would be more usefully employed.I guarantee from experience that someone has lost a course or a piece of kit or spares because of several thousand wasted on showy shit, that does not reflect the real utility of the DF.They got more useful PR from the airlift of the crashed Cherokee in Wicklow the other week, than this grandstanding, wasteful, expensive crap.If they want to do PR stuff, then let them create a PR budget, instead of hacking at training or provision of courses.
    regards

    I'd love to see the Argentinian Air Force open their game with a rugby ball delivered by Exocet
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    It was a excellent PR opportunity for the D.F, it looked very impressive and look at the size of the viewing public at the time, and all it cost was flight and fuel, money spent well for such a huge amount of viewers,

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