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    17/2/2009

    Best laid plans! Had planned to go out again for another 5 miles last night but friend came round that I hadn't seen in 5 months so had to catch up.

    Went out again this morning.

    Outward leg 2.6miles in 19min 31 sec.

    Again some light stretching and recovery for 5-7min.

    Return leg 2.6 miles in 20 min 37 sec.


    Started a bit more aggressive from the start, just lengthening the stride and more of a determined effort. Never really came out of my comfort zone (not making myself puke) for the 5 miles but my legs let me know later on this morning that they realise they're going to be punished for a while.

    Looking to start pushing out to 2 x 3 mile runs morning and evening by weekend and do them sub 50min. Next week is going to be increased excercise with combined swimming and circuits during the day.

    Depending on how I'm going over the next 8-10 days might start adding a pack and weight to the runs.

    Again, Thanks to Daz for the rekindling of getting fit!

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    Well, Zulu that settles it, you are the guy I am using for the Quote.

    Just remember, there's always someone out there who's fitter than you, stronger than you and faster than you. While you're wondering where to find some motivation, they're out training.
    It's gonna be you I am trying to at least get on Par with, (or I might just break your leg...lol)


    Anyway, today.

    Tuesday - 17 February 2009

    Run
    Distance: 2.6 miles.
    Time: 22:16 mins
    Details: Today was an easy enough run, but I think I took off too fast at the start. I was breathing extremely heavily after just 700 meters, but then I slowed the pace slightly and continued on to around the 1.7 mile mark, when I had to walk for a bit out of sheer Fatigue, After I started running again I got around Halfway through the second leg and had to walk another very short distance, then ran to the finish. I realise this is a slower time than my fastest, but I do know the places I lost time on, and will try to improve that.
    Link - http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/ireland/cork/299080166361 *route Taken Backwards*



    Truck Driver, YOu are twice my age and getting times that are faster than mine!!! Nicely done mate!!!! Really, that's feckin brilliant!!!

    Steyr Fan, you are the same age as my Dad!!! Yet he cannot run 500 meters!! Not at all! Yer doin fantastic ould fella!!! I get that pain too in my lower back, I don't know what it is, but I just run through it and eventually it goes away for me, I wouldn't advise someone who has used their bones more than me to do so though,


    Thanks a million for the inspiration lads.
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    Last edited by Dazzler; 17th February 2009 at 12:57.
    I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!

    Please PM me to correct me.

    But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!

    I have bad opinions but I stick by them!!!

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    Daz dont worry about speed that will eventually come

    try and build up stamina and endurance first

    and rememeber slowly slowly catchy woman

    pick a start line and walk to it - for at least 5 minuets- dont just take off on a gallop

    start very very slow then build it up and finish very very slow and again walk from the finish point as well

    make sure you stretch well after your exercise

    try not to walk any part of teh run- if your tom trollixed then slwo right down

    even if your slow right down pace is slower than walking - its psycholigical

    when you get out there think of all the people you know- dad/teacher/boss/uncle/cousins/mates etc

    and think how many of them wouldnt be able to do what your doing

    that you find will give you a spring in the step

    even if you come in on your chin strap after crawling home

    at least you took the hand of your nads and had the bollox to get out and do something

    well done
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    Thanks Hedgie, you are a right proper motivator aren't you!!!

    In WW1, you would have had the lads "up and Over" in a second!!!
    I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!

    Please PM me to correct me.

    But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!

    I have bad opinions but I stick by them!!!

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    Me and my size 9s
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    was late to circuits last night... had to cycle like a loon beat my best time Havelock Square to UCD

    9 mins 58 seconds cycling then straight into warmups and the instructor was on a boxing , sprinting and pushups thing.... 60 minutes later like a rag into the showers then cycle home

    back to normal running tonight hopefully.

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    This thread is making me realise that i will have to be able to do a certain time running for the cadets. Ive always been able to run for ages but never had much speed so thanks Dazzler your helping me out bigtime!!

    Well havent been training much alot since before christmas because ive been cutting down on judo with the whole leaving cert this year so wasnt expecting a great time for the first few weeks. Not really sure of what fast is because anytime i used to run was mainly just to lose weight for judo so never really timed myself, so ill let ye judge my time.

    Went out last night and did 2.8 miles in just under 20mins. With this as a marker hoping to get it down to about 19.30 in 2 weeks. Im guessing this isnt good enough for the cadets so anyone any advice on what to aim for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawalsh View Post
    This thread is making me realise that i will have to be able to do a certain time running for the cadets. Ive always been able to run for ages but never had much speed so thanks Dazzler your helping me out bigtime!!

    Well havent been training much alot since before christmas because ive been cutting down on judo with the whole leaving cert this year so wasnt expecting a great time for the first few weeks. Not really sure of what fast is because anytime i used to run was mainly just to lose weight for judo so never really timed myself, so ill let ye judge my time.

    Went out last night and did 2.8 miles in just under 20mins. With this as a marker hoping to get it down to about 19.30 in 2 weeks. Im guessing this isnt good enough for the cadets so anyone any advice on what to aim for?
    Don't the cadet's only need 1.5 miles in the 11:30 mins???

    If I am right then you seem to be well on you way and passed that mark!!! With those time's you could probably bring your 1.5 miles to Sub-9 mins.
    I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!

    Please PM me to correct me.

    But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!

    I have bad opinions but I stick by them!!!

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    The fitness in the Cadet interviews, while important to pass (obviously) aint the be all and end all. When I went for the Cadets last year the guys doing the counting for situps and push ups told us to stop after the required amount. The run is a personal thing so by all means go as fast as you can.



    17/02/09

    Went swimming today with my friends father (ex champion swimmer) who pretty much almost drowned me in the pool and hes 60!

    Swam about 800 m but my good they were done quick. Had to use the steps to pull my body out of the pool.

    Missing out on tonights run as I have to catch up with some family that I haven't seen in a while. Oh well, tomorrow!


    Daz,

    Their is always a faster, stronger, fitter person out there. The trick is to be the fastest, strongest and as fit as YOU can be yourself. Some people are just going to be better no matter what. Keep up the effort!
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    The fitness in the Cadet interviews, while important to pass (obviously) aint the be all and end all. When I went for the Cadets last year the guys doing the counting for situps and push ups told us to stop after the required amount. The run is a personal thing so by all means go as fast as you can.
    Oh right, i was stressing myself for no reason. Somehow i got the idea that id have to get an athletes time!

    With those time's you could probably bring your 1.5 miles to Sub-9 mins
    Thats something to aim for anyway! Daz seriously man your doing well and dont let anything stop ya, always aim for 1 step further than you think you can go and you make the time with no hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzler View Post
    Steyr Fan, you are the same age as my Dad!!! Yet he cannot run 500 meters!! Not at all! Yer doin fantastic ould fella!!! I get that pain too in my lower back, I don't know what it is, but I just run through it and eventually it goes away for me, I wouldn't advise someone who has used their bones more than me to do so though,
    Gav.
    Who are you calling ould fella? Cheeky pup.

    & please do tell us what or how you've used you bones? What do you do with your bones?:confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steyr Fan View Post
    Who are you calling ould fella? Cheeky pup.
    He's right though, isn't he ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    He's right though, isn't he ???
    Don't you start, you're no spring chicken yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzler View Post
    Don't the cadet's only need 1.5 miles in the 11:30 mins???

    If I am right then you seem to be well on you way and passed that mark!!! With those time's you could probably bring your 1.5 miles to Sub-9 mins.
    Yup 11:30 is correct as of the last competition and tonight I wheezed around the track 6 and a bit times in UCD in 11:00. For the record I'm not in great shape and really I'm surprised the time limit is that high.

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    Lads dont focus on speed

    focus on stamina and endurance

    think of it as training for your first time with a woman

    stamina and endurance will always win over speed


    When you train - say you run 3 miles

    run fast (not flat out) for the point 1.5 miles to 2 miles

    then every time you increase your training distance 3miles to 3.5 miles

    increase the fast bit by another little bit

    pick a suitable area with fix reference points and use that.


    When you are starting off training- never ever ever ever ever bring a watch with you

    when you finish your run

    kick into your press ups and sit ups straight away


    keep it up

    This bit is purely for motivation

    you shower of sandbag shites couldnt run as fast as a nun who is in an enclosed contemplative order for the last 25 years- switch off Jeremy Kyle and put on those nikes and hit the street
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    Well I did my 2 in CBB last night; absolutely exhausted struggled round not really timed in 18'30 back to Circuits tonight.
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    Out of curiosity, whilst we're on the subject of endurance, what is kind of weight typically carried for a soldier carrying a CEMO loadout?

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    Someone has told me the weight of CEMO for Part 3 of the ITs but I can't remember it, but expect to carry more when actually on the ground.

    It depends on what you carry & how long you are out for.

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    check out www.62infantry.com/Fitness.shtml

    Gives the layout of the fitness test, including the weight & content of the bergen for the 10k loaded march.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northie View Post
    Out of curiosity, whilst we're on the subject of endurance, what is kind of weight typically carried for a soldier carrying a CEMO loadout?
    25 to 35 kgs

    14 to 20 kgs for CEFO

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    Wednesday 18th February

    Did my 3.2km around DFTC today again, was flagging a bit towards the finish, but "Tiger Feet"
    kicked in just at the right time !!!

    Completed in 16 mins 33 seconds

    P.S:

    Hedgehog, thanks for the "motivation" ....

    Now go back to your tea, biscuits and slippers....
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    Now go back to your tea, biscuits and slippers....

    I try and get out about 5 days a week

    I have a circuit I run approx 5 to 6 miles I never time myself sometimes I am fast sometimes I am slow

    I think its whats on the IPOD

    I have become addicted to POD Cast lectures on every subject going

    when I finish I do

    15 X Press Ups
    15 X Sit Ups
    15 X Back Extensions

    I then do 12 X P Up
    12 X S Ups
    12 X B Extns

    I drop 2 every time until I am finished and bolloxed

    I run to keep off the ever present belly and because it allows me time on my own which I enjoy

    most of the shite I post on here is the product of a run

    I think its symobilc that FUN and RUN rhyme

    and in fact so do once a month and smelly .....
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Did 5k last night in around 24mins. Then took Hedges advice and went into sit ups and press ups. Proud of that time though because there was a serious hill in the middle of the run(steep side of elm park who know clonmel).
    Think i did something to my calf though going to have to see how it is later.

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    JNS or Other Females DO NOT READ This

    a bloke told me once when your trying to start training

    its all to do with rewards and incentives

    if you are having a run and its absolute shite

    and your thinking of packing that run in

    promise yourself that if you finish this run

    you can give your self a ahem self induced man treat cough blush

    and after you finish the wank you dont have to feel any Catholic guilt


    warning do not do this in public/CBB/DFTC/or in the front room

    you Cork lads are ok because its part of your culture
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog View Post
    JNS or Other Females DO NOT READ This

    a bloke told me once when your trying to start training

    its all to do with rewards and incentives

    if you are having a run and its absolute shite

    and your thinking of packing that run in

    promise yourself that if you finish this run

    you can give your self a ahem self induced man treat cough blush

    and after you finish the wank you dont have to feel any Catholic guilt


    warning do not do this in public/CBB/DFTC/or in the front room

    you Cork lads are ok because its part of your culture
    Now that is a good one, too bad I am just after my run!!!



    Thursday - 19 February 2009

    Run
    Distance: 2.6 miles
    Time: 21:35 mins
    Details: This run wasn't bad, I enjoyed it. Made it my furthest without walking, just under 1.9 miles. Then only walked a very short bit before taking off again, Walked again after another short run, but only because I wanted to finish on a run, Only walked 15m and then took off again. Tomorrow, my goal is only 1 walking bit, max 30m. Happy enough with the run, and I will do some circuits later.
    Link - http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/ireland/cork/299080166361 *route Taken Backwards*


    I have developed a pain in my right leg, it is at the shin on the left hand side near the front, where I have very little muscle and 0 fat. It is quite painful just before and after a run, but it is grand usually during the run. Please tell me that is not shin Splints because I am not willing to stop running, because if I do it will take me months to get back into it!!!
    I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!

    Please PM me to correct me.

    But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!

    I have bad opinions but I stick by them!!!

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