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    Seems to be far more interest from what I've seen.

    I've also noted that the communication being sent out sends planned (but changeable) dates for training which would be incredibly useful for prospective recruits.

    Seem wildly optimistic considering the delays with Garda vetting however!

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    It costs me money to be in the Reserve, too. I generally do not come out better than neutral since the Grat was abolished and pay was cut. For those of us in billable employments, if you counted DF hours during the working day over the year your employer would be wanting a stiff word.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
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    It costs me money to be in the Reserve, too. I generally do not come out better than neutral since the Grat was abolished and pay was cut. For those of us in billable employments, if you counted DF hours during the working day over the year your employer would be wanting a stiff word.
    Given I'm now 51, my role in the RDF would be severely limited as I never really saw use in units for sergeants of above a certain age. It wasn't about the money in the early years as again I was loosing out on annual leave and my kids were small, but by the time the cut in grat and taxation issues came about I had come to the realisation that if I were to give my time I should at least break even.

    It was a different time and looking back at it the DF was certainly getting VFM from me and the unit I served with, but I felt I got it back in spades as the field days the weekends and the parade nights were a very important part of my life in that time, not because I was defending the country or anything as contived as that... it was a diversion , a hobby ...something out of the ordinary and I enjoyed it !
    Time for another break I think......

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    For me, I loved the RDF in years gone by. Was single, no kids and could put in a lot of time. Would have done it for free. Was involved in shooting, orienteering, courses etc. etc. Even going up through the ranks, it was always good - you always felt like you were contributing, achieving, progressing. Put in the effort and you would achieve the results.

    The last few years have been the opposite. I feel like I am killing myself just to slow the rot. I come home bitter and angry from training, usually because everything is a battle that is going to be lost. Many a time I look at the people in the Mess and come to the conclusion that they had it sussed all the time - party while you can because it is all going to end soon and there is nothing we can do about it so make the most of it. Party because there is no point being bitter and angry because you're never going to achieve anything anyway. The guys who fought against fitness and standards, they had it right all the time. Nothing you do is going to change it falling apart around you so just sit back, relax and get wasted.

    Or in my case, spend it at home with my children.

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    The last few years have been the opposite. I feel like I am killing myself just to slow the rot. I come home bitter and angry from training, usually because everything is a battle that is going to be lost. Many a time I look at the people in the Mess and come to the conclusion that they had it sussed all the time - party while you can because it is all going to end soon and there is nothing we can do about it so make the most of it. Party because there is no point being bitter and angry because you're never going to achieve anything anyway. The guys who fought against fitness and standards, they had it right all the time. Nothing you do is going to change it falling apart around you so just sit back, relax and get wasted.

    Or in my case, spend it at home with my children.
    That is truth anyway !

    My experience at the moment is quite different and extremely positive.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    My unit is stagnant at the minute. Due to lack of numbers and stp taking up the first quater of the year

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    stp = makey-uppey work imho. Great if you have the bods to spare and they are up for it ( been a long while since both those things were true ) , otherwise send 4 to the Bde shoot (otherwise boss gets a PE) , do NOT win ( oh look we didn't win, shame that really) , come back we've got solid realistic training so we can get to the stage we can give the PDF a dig out.
    Last edited by trellheim; 2nd July 2018 at 15:01.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    That is truth anyway !

    My experience at the moment is quite different and extremely positive.
    There were always periods of peaks and troughs for me depending who was in charge and what their agenda was ...at a local level ie..Brigade level.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Interested at the moment in sub-unit recruiting reports - how is the current tranche looking at getting through to interview ?
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Interested at the moment in sub-unit recruiting reports - how is the current tranche looking at getting through to interview ?
    Numbers looking good?

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    No idea thus the question
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    We spend every 2nd weekend on range for teams. Its a pain tbh. Most ncos transferred out because they werent getting to do anything except range duties

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    Quote Originally Posted by koppiteal View Post
    We spend every 2nd weekend on range for teams. Its a pain tbh. Most ncos transferred out because they werent getting to do anything except range duties
    Somethings never change!
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    No idea thus the question
    Misread you post. Sorry.

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    We spend every 2nd weekend on range for teams. Its a pain tbh. Most ncos transferred out because they werent getting to do anything except range duties
    I got a phone call tonight looking to help roll out a new initiative across 2 corps that will advance a capability we are poor at generally across the DF . looking at your posts and you wonder why the reserve still exists. That is awful .
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by koppiteal View Post
    We spend every 2nd weekend on range for teams. Its a pain tbh. Most ncos transferred out because they werent getting to do anything except range duties
    Does the above refer to shooting competitions? I remember it was an obsession for my relations in the FCA back in the nineties. My local unit seemed to exist solely for getting lads range time with the FN and the bren. Please tell me things have changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    I got a phone call tonight looking to help roll out a new initiative across 2 corps that will advance a capability we are poor at generally across the DF . looking at your posts and you wonder why the reserve still exists. That is awful .
    Hope it helps change the way things are done. Ive 21 done and im thinking about jumping ship because of lack of training. After shooting comps we seem to do nothing

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    I got a phone call tonight looking to help roll out a new initiative across 2 corps that will advance a capability we are poor at generally across the DF
    The reason I write it like that is because it really is not for posting here ; I was really trying to highlight some of the different experiences people are having.

    With regard to training my boss "T go on a fking course - sorry boss cant too busy " might take him up on it next year - any course in the DF .

    As for your own access to courses do you not get to see the ATD ?

    Most of my mates are either finishing courses , running them, or starting them at the mo ( reminds me I have work to do lol ) .

    Where do YOU think the fault lies - do the PDF force you to do teams or is it closer to home ?
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    The reason I write it like that is because it really is not for posting here ; I was really trying to highlight some of the different experiences people are having.

    With regard to training my boss "T go on a fking course - sorry boss cant too busy " might take him up on it next year - any course in the DF .

    As for your own access to courses do you not get to see the ATD ?

    Most of my mates are either finishing courses , running them, or starting them at the mo ( reminds me I have work to do lol ) .

    Where do YOU think the fault lies - do the PDF force you to do teams or is it closer to home ?
    Question is... is the drive from Bn or Coy level

    Good and bad units I suppose

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    my feeling is its likely close to home but I want hear it from the horses mouth I suppose. Any CO worth their salt has been round the block on this one a few times and knows the game
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    I’m well out of the loop on shooting teams

    But is there a separate RDF competition still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koppiteal View Post
    We spend every 2nd weekend on range for teams. Its a pain tbh. Most ncos transferred out because they werent getting to do anything except range duties
    Lucky Bas%&$£s...you get every 2nd weekend off.

    The honest truth, once the medals and trophies are coming in, no one will question it. When they run out of people in your unit to do range duties, they will use up another unit, or get the battalion to provide different people every time - nothing will change once they are winning stuff.

    Their only lament will be that, in their day, people were only too happy to get a pair of boots and do unending range duties.
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    The Bn im with now have been winning all army for last few years. Its been pushed from the CO. As was mentioned as long as medals and trophies are coming they will be happy. As for courses we usually get an email the day before closing date or sometimes even after.

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    Thing is officers move around a lot (every 3 years or so), that can be a good or a bad thing

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    It's combined PDF & RDF from Friday to Sunday, separate prizes for winners.
    Fail to prepare, prepare to fail

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