Long story short, you'd want about 2000+ recruits to show up as soon as the vacancies appear, who live near their RDF locations, who have free time, disposable income, and real hard-on for all things military to make recruitment and the RDF viable before the next VFM review.
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Originally posted by The real Jack View PostSaab what is your point? It's not a big secret that numbers are incredibly low across the RDF, add to that the fact that most people don't enjoy orienteering at all and the (probably) short notice nature of any RDF orienteering events this year.
Or alternatively the question could be put
Is this what we expect to see from a brigade in the future?
Orienteering is a test of navagation, fitness and observation.
Are they not key skills for a reservist?
I would think it was more important than dressing up and pretending to attack pretend enemy.
So why is it not being pushed?
It's not like it costs anything to train up for it.
Originally posted by Truck Driver View PostNope that's a day in the week, not a weekday. Weekday = Mon-Fri...
However as the military has always worked 7 days by definition weekday = working day in the military everyday is a weekday.
Putting that aside, please answer why you resorted to childish insulting when you made the mistake of thinking that the RDF orienteering competition, which I clearly said was held on a Sunday, was held on a weekday?Last edited by Saab; 4 October 2013, 18:01.
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Originally posted by SwiftandSure View PostLong story short, you'd want about 2000+ recruits to show up as soon as the vacancies appear, who live near their RDF locations, who have free time, disposable income, and real hard-on for all things military to make recruitment and the RDF viable before the next VFM review.
even with our Reservists receiving Army pay, Leave, pensionable service, travel and missed meal expenses, and the opportunity to train overseas and deploy on operations - we are still not upto strength, but things are improving on all fronts.
we are lucky, the government sees the Army Reserve as the silver bullet, but it could have gone the other way.
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If we want to get the right people in the door we need to dispense with the old way of recruiting.
We need to do it just like the PDF do to a certain extent. Advertise recruitment for a barracks in regional papers, on the radio and military.ie. Then have people do psycho tests, induction fitness tests, interviews, all that jazz. It will help weed out the people that don't really want to jump through any hoops to get in, the kind who just want a uniform and to go drink tea.
Then have them do a recruiit course of no less than a month, the money is there for it! Then assign them to a units in the barracks they applied to. Take into account what their preference might be, but it's the army, and if Engineers need 20 new Ptes and Joe Blogs want's to go to MPs who don't need anyone, well then Joe Blogs won't be wearing a red hat.
Recruit people like they will someday be soldiers, train them like soldiers and treat them like soldiers and we might be able to keep some of them.
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One of the recruits in my unit quit after less than two weeks because "It wasn't like the RDF".Jesus christ WTF did he expect"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Postsurely contracts prevent him jumping ship so early?
I am also aware of a cadet that left after about a month into his cadetship because he "didnt realise it was going to be so aggressive", this was a guy that had been in the FCA and had been on 2 or 3 camps
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Originally posted by apod View PostOne of the recruits in my unit quit after less than two weeks because "It wasn't like the RDF".Jesus christ WTF did he expect
On the other hand, I have encountered NCOs and even one officer (female) that in their entire reserve career had never spent a night living in hard routine (or even in a bivvy). Many reserve units were social/youth clubs in the past which was a disgrace and a source of much outrage to me when I encountered them.
It's also why it is so puzzling that the re-org has done so little to formally address ethos change (why did officers and NCOs need a year to prepare for mandatory fitness testing. Why wasn't there more laying out of the law in terms of expectations of attendance and follow through during the briefings.) while going at it so hard in terms of KPIs."It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke
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Originally posted by Smithy View Post"surely contracts prevent him jumping ship so early?"
Plenty more only too willing to take his place - in our army anyway.
It is a place lost that cannot be filled until the next batch of recruiting takes place and they add one slot more to replace the bloke they just lost.
those contracts need looking at because they seriously take the piss and do ONH no favours at all.
if a lad can walk out so easily when the going gets tough then it is the system that is to blame, not the individual.Last edited by RoyalGreenJacket; 5 October 2013, 15:43.
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Originally posted by F_M View PostI know of a cadet that left 1 week before his commissioning!
these leaks need to be plugged in order to provide value for money of public funds.
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