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What dazzler and riflemangundy are saying would tend to indicate that the yahoos instructing on recruit camps (in the south at least) aren't competent enough to take command of their own bowel movements, never mind to train recruits properly.
While I know there are some good NCO's in Infantry. This is what I am basically saying.
Yes some of the instructors are good but come off it,, iv had people still not competent to strip the fcuking steyr rifle like,,,,,
Bring back unit based training where the unit can send the best instructors available.
Im not saying crucify them like our own RDFSAS friends just train them to have respect and confidence to do what they have to do because they were not getting it on the island
TD : TI 12/07 "Planning for Recruitment in the RDF" is what you want.
Noncentralized training is a kick in the nuts and a reversion to shite standards again.
Cheers Trellheim
Am I reading this correctly ? Corps units' recruits will not be trained
centrally by 62 FAR ?
Seeing as the Inf Bns and Arty Regts train their
own in house anyway....
Units will be responsible for training their own recruits. Big disadvantages
I see in this are:
1. Some units would not have sufficient staff to do this (Recruit FTT)
2. Instrs could be pigeonholed for years doing this, to the detriment of their
own career progression...
"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
ask the Air Defence recruits from the 2nd, 3rd and 4th Batt. theyd have killed to be on previous recruit camps!
small units need these camps for their units as their small numbers cannot get the resources needed as where a gagle of infantry can.
i also firmly believe the infantry should run ALL recruit camps. then 2* training etc is down to the unit
We can consolidate the recruits in a single recruit camp and take instructors from three battery's. Usually have 30 or 40 - it works well TBH, granted there are less logistical problems sending them to a centralised camp like Bere Island but it's not a nightmare when we run our own.
"Attack your attic with a Steyr....as seen on the Late Late Show..."
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
We can consolidate the recruits in a single recruit camp and take instructors from three battery's. Usually have 30 or 40 - it works well TBH, granted there are less logistical problems sending them to a centralised camp like Bere Island but it's not a nightmare when we run our own.
The obvious solution to conducting Recruit Training for the RDF AD Btys is to centralise the
training for all Btys in DFTC - loads of room, facilities, etc etc
"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
The obvious solution to conducting Recruit Training for the RDF AD Btys is to centralise the
training for all Btys in DFTC - loads of room, facilities, etc etc
Well, that's where everyone else will be training :wink:
That's where I did mine and it will probably be there again this year.
However I reckon that the most obvious solution would be a brigade with the facilities, the instructors and the capability to do it centrally and not have to throw it back to individual units. Oh well.
"Attack your attic with a Steyr....as seen on the Late Late Show..."
IMHO:
Recruit Module 2 - centralised at unit/bde level
2*-3* - centralised at unit/bde level
Corps training/annual camps - Corps Concentrations
The first two are already happening for Corps units !
Inf Bns train their own recruits in house......
As you probably know, 62 FAR has done the Recruit Module 2 training
for Corps units on E Bde for the last 2 years now (or is it 3 ?)
The Cavalry Corps are doing the third one for near on 10 years now, with the advent of the
PSO exercises
"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
The reason there is going to be no fully centralised Recruit training in the Southern Brigade is because the man who brought it in, Lt. Col. O' Meara (PDF Ret) brought it in. And now that he is retired people want it back to the old ways.
I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!
Please PM me to correct me.
But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!
Centralised recruit training:
In East - 1 unit is tasked by Bde to run recruit training for all units in the Bde
In South - 1 location is set by Bde for recruit training and all units bring their recruits there and train them
In West - ?
Centralised recruit training:
In East - 1 unit is tasked by Bde to run recruit training for all units in the Bde
In South - 1 location is set by Bde for recruit training and all units bring their recruits there and train them
In West - ?
I'm pretty sure one unit runs the camp, and request instructors from various Units because they don't have enough.
I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!
Please PM me to correct me.
But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!
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