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    Tim Horgan Goldie fish's Avatar
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    This should be a sticky: Ammunition bought!

    If anyone ever asks... how many and how much....

    Departmental Expenditure.

    34. Deputy Willie Penrose asked the Minister for Defence the breakdown of the consumable costing €14.334 million which is to be spent under subhead G on defensive equipment in 2009; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [24707/09]

    Minister for Defence (Deputy Willie O’Dea): The Defence Forces are required to maintain sufficient stocks of ammunition for all weapon types currently in use, as well as other stocks of an explosive ordnance nature. This is to provide for operational training of all personnel and for specialised operational training prior to overseas deployment. In addition, the Defence Forces must maintain sufficient reserves of ammunition and explosives to allow for any contingent requirements.

    The provision in 2009 for the acquisition of defensive equipment under Subhead G of the Defence Vote is €37 million, of which an amount of €14.47 million is designated for the acquisition of ammunition consumables. Given the nature of the ammunition business, there is a very considerable lead in time for the delivery of orders. In that respect, €10.38 million of the €14.47 million available this year is accounted for by ammunition orders placed in 2008 and which are due for delivery and payment in 2009. The breakdown of the main consumables covered in the provision of €14.47m is given in the form of a tabular statement, which I set out below.

    TABULAR STATEMENT

    Description Value €
    Mortar Bombs 5,747,746
    Rounds 30mm 2,562,911
    Rounds 84mm 1,276,495
    Rounds 7.62mm 959,850
    Rounds 12.7mm 885,630
    Rounds and Cartridges 105mm 650,280
    Rounds 76mm 630,000
    Rounds 20 x 139mm 480,850
    Rounds 90mm 447,435
    Miscellaneous 827,291

    TOTAL 14,468,488


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    A sticky thread called "this should be a sticky" I like it.
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    Looks like some one got carried away on a mortar shoot!
    Time for another break I think......

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    There are 3 types of mortar in service, one of which was only recently adopted (and thus stocks need to be built up for it)

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    Eh? 5.56mm?

    9mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZULU View Post
    Eh? 5.56mm?

    9mm?
    The expenditure might only be broken down for ammunition for support weapons (everything listed is used by either Sp Coy, Arty or Cav), with 5.56 and 9mm listed under "Miscellaneous", or 5.56 and 9mm might be bought in large enough batches to last several years.

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    Don't forget that the reported theft of ammunition from Sarsfields Bks
    (as reported in yesterday's papers) would have to be replenished !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Don't forget that the reported theft of ammunition from Sarsfields Bks
    (as reported in yesterday's papers) would have to be replenished !
    There was no live ammunition stolen.


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    Would Blank Ammo come under Misc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZULU View Post
    Would Blank Ammo come under Misc?
    And some pellets for that air gun that was stolen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver
    Don't forget that the reported theft of ammunition from Sarsfields Bks
    (as reported in yesterday's papers) would have to be replenished !

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    There was no live ammunition stolen.
    Did I use the word "live" in that post ?
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    Tim Horgan Goldie fish's Avatar
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    The figures don't refer to blank ammunition.


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