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Originally posted by kermitA.3 Reduce the Reserve Defence Force by two-thirds.sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Originally posted by kermitBudget.
It does not refer to boots on the ground.sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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the RDFRA said
"The Reserve Defence Force budget represents only 1% of the defence budget while giving the nation a capacity to increase its defence personnel assets by 7,200 (a 70% increase) in times of need."
does the RDFRA actually believe that - and over what timeframe - and worse, does the DoD/PDF believe that?
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Originally posted by kermitConsider what the report is. It is not a White Paper on Defence. From the same paragraph, of which you seem to insist on quoting the title of, and ignoring the actual description.
What the rest of the paragraph says contradicts the opening sentence so basically the cheeseparing civilians can do one, the other or both as they see fit.sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Originally posted by ropebag View Postthe RDFRA said
"The Reserve Defence Force budget represents only 1% of the defence budget while giving the nation a capacity to increase its defence personnel assets by 7,200 (a 70% increase) in times of need."
does the RDFRA actually believe that - and over what timeframe - and worse, does the DoD/PDF believe that?
The Reserve Defence Forces Representative Association have reacted angrily at the recommendations by "An Board Snip Nua" to cut RDF numbers by two thirds.sigpic
Say NO to violence against Women
Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Fifth Commandement is exceptionally clear
whereas the sixth is always problamatic
why wouldnt you honour your father and your motherThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Right, quotes from the Report:
The Group has also identified scope for a structural change in the Reserve Defence Force involving a reduction of at least 4,900 members.It is recommended that the allocation for the Reserve Defence Force be reduced by two-thirds which will yield savings of €5.6mand a reduction in the overall numbers associated with the RDF of 4,900.
As well as barracks, the Defence property portfolio consists of a diverse range of facilities including 8 training facilities (accounting for 16,800 acres), 7 firing ranges (1,091 acres) and 26 Reserve
Defence Force premises (22 acres) as well as renting 51 properties for the Reserve Defence Forces.
The D/Defence has identified 33 properties for disposal at an aggregated estimated value of €51.2m.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostRight, quotes from the Report:
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Reduce the Reserve Defence Force by two-thirds.sigpic
Say NO to violence against Women
Originally posted by hedgehogMy favourite moment was when theOriginally posted by hedgehogred headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head
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Jeez, both of you two should get a room and work it out.
Reduce the Reserve Defence Force by 2/3 would leave a 'Reserve' if you want to be absurd about it and remove two words.
However, it comes down to cuts of one, some, or all of :
Establishment Strength
Actual Strength ,
Vote Subhead for RDF Pay
Parading Locations { RDF Halls and the like }
Cadre Establishment and Cadre Allowance
{ no account taken of reductions in equipment }
So GH a 2/3 Reduction : What's that imply to you ?"Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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there will be cuts but lets face it when in 10 -20 yrs time when Ireland is back in the celtic tiger mode 2 again and buying houses/ boxes for a million , and APCs for a million and all the fancy bits of kit at least with abit of luck the Equitation school will be well and truely gone , Horses barbaqued and eaten , some practical solutions to save a few bob .. set up an ammo reloading facility for all practice ammo, create jobs and save on ammo costs , and improve soldiers understaning of ballistics, sell all officers swords to antique dealers, bar owners etc, ( they can stick them up on the wall beside the pikes) , reduce the no of officers, get rid of Sam Browne belts and No I uniforms, think about buying east european (or even China ) equipment, ( small arms in particular) and I am sure the US will offer us a bunch of weapons for next to nothing, Consider a military pact with Russia or China, bases in Shannon etc and I am sure the yanks would pay for the entire army,
Just a few wacky ideas
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What the report proposes with regard to the RDF is, all this is in the report:
More usable reserve - not a bad thing!
Reduction in size (I'm presuming strength but it could be establishment, by at least 4,900)
Cuts in parading locations
Major drastic cuts in the size of cadre
Cuts in mandays & other budgets (by 2/3)
Priority given to the VFM report on the RDF
Major structural reform (ie another reorg)
In themselves most of these things are not a bad thing in the long run and will lead to a more productive reserve, however mandays will be the key to having a more usable (and therefore must be better trained) reserve.
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Reduce the Reserve Defence Force by two-thirds
means exactly what it says..but is a little ambiguous in relation to what the reduction should be in.
Size?
Height?
Weight?
Numbers?Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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