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Get rid of the Bde HQs, with the exception of a core of staff. What the 58 of them in each Bde do is a mystery. Reduction ~ 150
The RDF is supposed to be a mirror of the PDF organisation. Get rid of the C & D Coys from the Battalions that have them. This will lead to a reduction of 133 x 13 = 1729.
Camp Staffs. WTF like? Reduction 66 * 3 = 198
RDFTA - no requirement for anyone below the rank of Sgt. A lot of the officers can also go - Catering School? UNTSI? etc. Reduction 15
The Integrated Reserve. Contraversial? The model didn't work. Everyone should be of that standard to begin with, not just a select few. Reduction - 2656.
2 AD Bty - 1 AD is close enough to Dublin & Baldonnel. Reduction 83
Total Reduction - 4831. Close enough for me.
Am assuming that these reductions are in ESTABLISHMENT figures, as against
ACTUAL figures ? Seeing as there's no way the Camp Staff element in any
RDF LSB is up to a full strength of 66 !
I feel that the outfits in Non Permanent posts may well be at risk
As for the 500 to be cut from the PDF - well anyone who's conduct or medical
record is questionable would have to be looking over their collective
shoulders at this point in time...
"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
thats slighty over the average natural wastage for that period
but dont forget the flock of horses from the Eq school are on the strength of the establishment
and seeing as they are going to be burgers in France soon that
gives us a head start of 30 Cpls off the strength straightaway
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
OK, so where is the reduction of 4900 going to come from? Here are 4 proposals.
Get rid of the Bde HQs, with the exception of a core of staff. What the 58 of them in each Bde do is a mystery. Reduction ~ 150
The RDF is supposed to be a mirror of the PDF organisation. Get rid of the C & D Coys from the Battalions that have them. This will lead to a reduction of 133 x 13 = 1729.
Camp Staffs. WTF like? Reduction 66 * 3 = 198
RDFTA - no requirement for anyone below the rank of Sgt. A lot of the officers can also go - Catering School? UNTSI? etc. Reduction 15
The Integrated Reserve. Contraversial? The model didn't work. Everyone should be of that standard to begin with, not just a select few. Reduction - 2656.
2 AD Bty - 1 AD is close enough to Dublin & Baldonnel. Reduction 83
Total Reduction - 4831. Close enough for me.
Way too complicated.
Here is my proposal.......
Have a mandatory fitness test for ALL ranks and ages brought in from January and any unfit / lazy b**ger who fails gets the chop. No excuses and no hiding behind rank.
You will be left with a leaner reserve in more ways than one and a much more useful one at that because it will be the fit and/or dedicated ones who will make the effort to pass.
Am assuming that these reductions are in ESTABLISHMENT figures, as against
ACTUAL figures ? Seeing as there's no way the Camp Staff element in any
RDF LSB is up to a full strength of 66 !
I feel that the outfits in Non Permanent posts may well be at risk
As for the 500 to be cut from the PDF - well anyone who's conduct or medical
record is questionable would have to be looking over their collective
shoulders at this point in time...
The Cadre element is roughly 480... alot of older sweat who wll walk when there centres close.
A major reorganisation of the RDF will be required....
DOD has recommended (to An Bord Snip (not the other way around)) RDF location closures, we are talking about a minimum of 18 locations (thats if ALL ranges & training facilities are sold, which isn't going to happen, so it will actually be more). That is 23% of RDF locations in non-permanent posts.
"Strucural change" in the RDF has been recommended (that means units will close!)
Reductions of 4,900 RDF personnel - if structural change is happening it will mean the establishment is reduced, but if this is 4,900 non-effective or unfilled establishment posts what will that save?
Not top of this there will be cuts in the RDF budget of €5.6 million (on top of the cuts in December).
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PDF Cuts, they are proposing that the cuts being in the following areas:
Equitation School & RDF Cadre - 325
ATCP, ATCA, NS Replacment programme, MATS - 70
Overseas missions - 90
DFHQ - 15
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Those who have said this is a shopping list are correct but......
There is a VFM audit going on of the RDF, the DOD want to close RDF locations (the report says that)
The shopping list comes to savings of € 5.31 billion, the Government need to find a minimum of € 4/5 (can't remember which) billion. Politcally is it easier to cut social welfare by 5% or do the rest??
Remember when the Defence budget reach €1 billion? The Government is now borrowing that amount every 2.5 weeks!!!
Establishment = approx 12000, permitted strength at present is 7500. (Minister stated)
If you minus the 4900 from 12000 you get 7100, already the permitted strength, give or take.
Now what becomes more apparent is the budget. Savings of 2/3 of 5.6m leaves 2.8m for 2010.
2.8m (if all for wages) will provide 4000 bodies with 7 days FTT (avg 700euro per man)
2008 saw 4321 expend 81000 mandays, with 42 days limits.
So, if we are to stay at 7500, then only 4000 will be permitted to to FTT.
If however, you take the permitted strength and reduce by 4900, you get 2600 bodies, .....back to the Integration Model !!!, with a high proportion able to complete 14 days FTT.
I agree with Dev, sweat it down to the Integrated Model.
Likewise the report suggests disposal of properties other than barracks and these are
all RDF, So by that simple act there is no hiding place for Cadre and the geographic spread of RDF will end.
If you want to join, you will have to go to a PDF occupied post.
This will permit the suits to force the military to cut all permanent cadre and support the RDF by paying temporary allowances to rotating cadre. That will end the crazy situation that applies now where they can't move them.
Remember 421 cadre exist at present, for a model of 299 (WP04), yet no explicit reduction to happen with cadre despite the downsizing of the RDF.
when that heap of horse dung the Equitation School does eventually close
there are comrades up there who are going to be redeployed to other non horsey units
the enlisted personnel should by right keep their grooms pay
its not their fault their Unit is gone so why should they suffer fianancially
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Have a mandatory fitness test for ALL ranks and ages brought in from January and any unfit / lazy b**ger who fails gets the chop. No excuses and no hiding behind rank.
You will be left with a leaner reserve in more ways than one and a much more useful one at that because it will be the fit and/or dedicated ones who will make the effort to pass.
Job done overnight.
You see the easy answer is always there.
Good idea. Clean sweep, start over. Don't stop at just Medical/Fitness tests(medicals should be mandatory too, lots of people who are medically unfit to serve holding positions around the country, I'm sure you all know one). Let everyone re-apply for their appointment.
The Re-org put a lot of dead weight into positions of responsibility, at the expense of those who had the initiative and motivation. Sadly we lost too many of them in the last 3 years, due to discontent.
To be revitalised as a professional/effective force, the RDF should free itself of the shackles of the old FCA mentality. And that includes the legacy of people promoted because daddy/grandad was a comdt/cs/shooting team etc.
The entire system should mirror the PDF, and that includes the promotion system. You should NEVER be sent on a promotion course due to seniority. It's the only way we'll be taken seriously.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
The Integrated Reserve. Contraversial? The model didn't work. Everyone should be of that standard to begin with, not just a select few. Reduction - 2656.
You propose to discharge 2,656 integrated reservists on the grounds that they are better trained than the non-integrated?:confused:
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