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    whats he working at

    I know what his saturday morning job is

    but whats he doing full time
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    I think he 'invested' well over the years. There's Setanta and the Irish Times and I heard he set up a business in Limerick. Sounds like a mad time to be doing that but in his case I'm sure it will be a success.

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    he wasnt the worst

    I wish him well

    if things dont go well on the job front

    he can always hire the back of his head out as a squash court wall
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    True, he was known to do the odd push up in this time!

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    I presume the Cadet School is looking for commitment and hours are not 9-5, Monday-Friday .... cadets should give there all to the Cadet School for the 15 months, anything else is a luxury.

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    Yes, that's exactly it.

    I almost went spare in late November after intake. Just wanted to get out of the place for a break, just for one day, but had to wait until Christmas. Stood me in good stead in my first trip which was UNIFIL. Was last to go on leave, four and a half months in. I think the Coy Comdr was even a bit worried that I might go postal but after three months locked up in the shit hole that is the Curragh it was a breeze.

    It got a lot more relaxed and routine in the last few months of the senior 'year' but as that has been reduced to only three months now I can't say if there is any '9 to 5 phase' now. There must be some of it though. I know there was a huge change a few years back and senior cadets were allowed to own and have cars on site at some stage. They'd only allow that if you could use the thing either inside or outside 'bounds'

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrier View Post
    Ability to run distances is a big plus with some of the commandant training officers though.
    Totally agree. Anyone reading this thread hoping to get in and give themselves a bit of a head start - Cardio is King. Refer to my previous post. Try and incorporate hills and some weight on your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    Totally agree. Anyone reading this thread hoping to get in and give themselves a bit of a head start - Cardio is King. Refer to my previous post. Try and incorporate hills and some weight on your back.
    I live in a hilly area so there's lots of ups and downs on my runs, however what kind of distances would you advise angling at? I'm going unloaded for the mean time but in the past whilst less fit I've humped 35-40kg backpacks and on an expedition during this summer I had to carry two at one stage!

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    That kind of weight is at the upper end of the scale so if you've got that on your back you're walking.

    Not everyone has the time or location to do a 5 hour 'TAB' type training with that kind of weight so a more realistic option is a much smaller weight, at a moderate pace, in a shorter time, to exhaustion. Do one or two of those long, heavy TABs for sure if you can to give yourself confidence but my advice for what it is worth is in my previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Yep, try and get anyone in the PDF on the phone from the real world on a Wednesday. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't sad.

    The Air Corps does not get Wednesday Sports half day apart from apprentices in training!

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    Please don't try and support any argument about work ethic by citing the 'Bluffwaffe'.

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    I thought EVERY soldier got a sports afternoon on Wednesdays with a half-day Friday and late start (10:30hrs) on Mondays???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    Please don't try and support any argument about work ethic by citing the 'Bluffwaffe'.
    And their suped-up spitfires
    To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    'Bluffwaffe'....
    Classic !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    That comment about football might be a flippant remark based on the current COS but there are many anti GAA officers in the DF too as they perceive the GAA guys as getting special treatment.
    The COS refers to this in his book, "The Earley Years". He wasn't the most popular cadet due to his inter-county commitments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Classic !!!
    I have to own up that its not my creation. A perfect moniker based on my experience with them on the border in particular.

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    As in, the pilot is under the weather after going on the lash last night and every night on his rotation for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    "The Earley Years"..
    cheesey....
    But there's no danger
    It's a professional career
    Though it could be arranged
    With just a word in Mr. Churchill's ear
    If you're out of luck you're out of work
    We could send you to johannesburg.

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    Didn't do him any harm !! In GAA or DF circles

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
    I thought EVERY soldier got a sports afternoon on Wednesdays with a half-day Friday and late start (10:30hrs) on Mondays???
    Is that how it is in the Brits?

    If so, I think I'm serving in the wrong army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Didn't do him any harm !! In GAA or DF circles
    The GAA has nothing to do with it at that senior level. Remember the COS is a political appointment and the current man started that process a long time ago. Some would say shortly after leaving the womb :wink:

    The Government learned sometime ago (i.e. Dave Stapleton) that picking the best man for the job might not always suit their agenda.

    The Chiefs that came post Stapleton wouldn't exactly set the world on fire and that includes the incumbent. It's one thing to have a good hand shake and slap all the troops on the back. It's another thing entirely to take on the Minister and Simple Serpents in Parkgate.
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    I meant that his DF training didn't do his GAA career any harm, he joined the cadets in 1965 and....
    General Earley played Gaelic football for Roscommon for twenty years (1965 – 1985) and who is the holder of five Connaught Senior medals, 2 All Star Awards, 1 National League medal (1979), 1 U21 All Ireland Medal (1966) An All Ireland runners up Medal (1980) and 2 Railway Cup Medal

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    It's another thing entirely to take on the Minister and Simple Serpents in Parkgate.
    I'd be interested in hearing about that, in another thread perhaps ?
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    The short version is that D.S. threatened to resign if the white paper was not revised pre publication. That was stated publicly by D.S. on a number of the COS 'roadshows' he did.

    Some years later the two candidates for COS where asked about how much of their soul they were willing to sell to get the job. The better man said nothing was for sale. The other offered up the 500 pers in fulltime training that D.S. had fought so hard to get. Guess who got the job?

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    I remember the roadshow in CBB- he said it out straight

    he also said he was said that the Dept dangled various positions on state boards post retirement

    he was a good bloke and he got a spontaneous standing ovation from all gathered there

    he said the purpose of the road shows was let the troops know that sometimes a line had to be drawn in the sand

    he stressed that at no stage was he disobeying an order he was merely neogiating with civil servants
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
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    I'm biased but if there ever was a role model for an officer Dave Stapleton was it.

    Even pre COS he dragged the S&T Corps out of the dark ages and created a benchmark that led to other missions by getting the Tpt Coy and ARW out to Somalia. A lot of the improvements in kit have their origins in his time as QMG.

    IMO there hasn't been anyone even close since. Some potential there at the moment with one of the Maj Gens and two of the Brig Gens. Hopefully the right man gets it

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