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    Peace enforcement

    Could someone explain the difference between un peace keeping and peace enforcement ? Has the army been involved in peace enforcement ?

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    Is this to do with that DF discussion on the radio with Pat Kenny?

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    No swift , havent heard it, what was said ?

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    Try here

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    I am just curious, is peace enforcement a more robust type of role for the army? Have been looking at the discussion on the army serving in afghanistan, would peace enforcement be a stepping stone for any potential deployments to an afghan type deployment ?

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    The UN operates a number of different types of missions:

    Observer - unarmed officers who will monitor a situation and negotiate locally (eg UNTSO - Middle East)
    Peacekeeping - generally lightly armed & equipped force (eg UNIFIL I in Lebanon (the days before the last lot of fighting))
    Peace Enforcement - better armed & equipped force (eg MINURCAT in Chad)


    The difference is in the Mandate (basically a directive) from the UN Security Council. In a nut shell:

    Peacekeeping - you can fire in self defence
    Peace Enforcement - you can use "all necessary means" to get peace (that includes firing first)

    The rules of engagement will vary from mission to mission and from contingent to contingent - ROEs will not be discussed here as it is an operational matter (unless they are already in the public domain).

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    Strictly speaking the first Iraq war could be classed as a peace enforcement mission as it was authorised by the UNSC and authorised the use of all necessary means.

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    Cheers swift, question answered. That coalition for peace guy needs a size 11 where the sun dont shine

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    Is the mission to Chad the first peace enforcement one for the irish army ?

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    No. Being discussed in Other Thread. UNISOM II was the first Peace Enforcement mission Irish Troops participated in, with INTERFET possibly being the first where Irish troops exercised the enforcement mandate.


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    Peace enforcement missions Irish troops have been involved in:
    UNOSOM II
    INTERFET, UNTAET & UNMISET
    IFOR
    SFOR
    KFOR
    UNMIL
    UNIFIL (after Aug 2006)
    EUFOR Chad
    MINURSAT

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    what about ISAF
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Plus ISAF (having said that Irish troops there aren't on the ground too much) also is EUFOR BiH a peace enforcement mission?

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    Was not the first U.N. Congo Mission (O.N.U.C.) back in the 1960's

    not peace enforcement as well?

    I have seen it referred to as a "Blue Helmet Mission" as opposed to a "Blue Beret Mission".

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    Last edited by Connaught Stranger; 14th August 2009 at 11:59.

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    where did you get your list from Dev

    I think there are 1 or 2 missing
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Military.ie but it doesn't say which are peace enforcement and which aren't. According to the site the DF have participated in the following missions:

    Artemis June 2003 – Septmber 2003
    MINUCI / UNOCI June 2003 - April 2004
    MINURSO September 1991 – present
    MONUC June 2001 – present
    ONUC July 1960 – June 1964
    UNAVEM II July 1991 – September 1993
    UNMEE November 2000 - June 2003
    UNMIL November 2003 - present
    UNOSOM II August 1993 – January 1995
    UNTAG March 1989 – April 1990
    EUFOR Chad/CAR 21 February 2008 - 15 March 2009
    MINURCAT 15 March 2009 - present
    INTERFET / UNTAET / UNAMET / UNMISET September 1999 – June 2000
    ISAF December 2001 - present
    OSGA March 1990 - present
    UNAMIC November 1991 – March 1992
    UNGOMAP April 1988 – 15 March 1990
    UNIPOM September 1965 – March 1966
    UNMOGIP September 1987 – June 1992
    UNSMA July 1996 – October 1999
    UNTEA August 1962 – October 1962
    UNTAC March 1992 – November 1993
    UNMIH September 1994 – March 1996
    ONUCA December 1998 – January 1992
    ONUSAL January 1992 – May 1994
    EUFOR / SFOR December 2004 – present
    KFOR August 1999 - present
    Operation Concordia / FYROM March 2003 - December 2003
    UNFICYP March 1964 – May 2005
    UNHCR (Y) December 1992 – March 1993
    UNMIK July 1999 - present
    UNMLO / UNPROFOR January 1992 – January 1996
    UNMOP February 1996 – December 1999
    UNPREDEP February 1996 – February 1999
    UNTAES February 1996 – January 1998
    UNDOF June 1997 – August 1998
    UNEF II October 1973 – September 1974
    UNIFIL May 1978 - November 2001
    UNIIMOG August 1988 – March 1991
    UNIKOM April 1991 - March 2003
    UNIT June 1984 – July 1988
    UNMOVIC / UNSCOM September 1996 – March 2003
    UNOGIL June 1958 – December 1958
    UNRWA February 1988 – June 1992
    UNTSO December 1958 - present
    UNNY November 1978 – present


    "Blue Beret" and "Blue Helmet" are interchangable, it wouldn't be a reflection on the mandate.

    ONUC was a peacekeeping mission

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