Soldier 2010

[Hello Alaska]

If the shirt is to be worn inside the trousers, they should follow the Brits example of stable belts having the Unit/Corps colours.

Otherwise, it'll just look shite. Although I think having the shirt tucked in looks shite anyway.

[turbocalves]

If the shirt is to be worn inside the trousers, they should follow the Brits example of stable belts having the Unit/Corps colours.

Otherwise, it'll just look shite. Although I think having the shirt tucked in looks shite anyway.

I dont think its too bad at all, as long as you wear a belt, but stable belts would be a nice idea,
we could 'pimp our belts' and get Corps buckles

[HavocIRL]

I dont think its too bad at all, as long as you wear a belt, but stable belts would be a nice idea,
we could 'pimp our belts' and get Corps buckles

Turbocalves you mind reader.

Just what I wanted, another thing to keep clean............

[Craghopper]

If the shirt is to be worn inside the trousers, they should follow the Brits example of stable belts having the Unit/Corps colours.

Otherwise, it'll just look shite. Although I think having the shirt tucked in looks shite anyway.

It looks neat on a neat Soldier...Shit on a bag of shite.

[turbocalves]

Turbocalves you mind reader.

Just what I wanted, another thing to keep clean............

Good thiing about being a bagger is i'd be left waiting for one to be issued, so one less thing to clean

[Goldie fish]

I dont think its too bad at all, as long as you wear a belt, but stable belts would be a nice idea,
we could 'pimp our belts' and get Corps buckles

Anyone else remember the duty web belt with the FF crest? They look much better than the standard clasp buckle.

[Craghopper]

Anyone else remember the duty web belt with the FF crest? They look much better than the standard clasp buckle.

Yeah, if they were black or olive green..not that puce green colour.

[apod]

Is the Smock just going to be used on the ground now?

Rumour has it yes.And for ATCP.Hope is it will lead to fewer replacement smocks having to be issued.

Apod, when do you think it likely that the RDF would get issued with this
new "barrack jacket" ?

Just curious....

Am thinking back to the advent of the old green working dress with "wooly pully"

The PDF got it around the 1988/89 mark (one of the old sweats will correct me,
probably, if I' m wrong)

I remember my first Annual Training (1989), where a 4 Cav Sqn
NCO (now deceased, RIP) told us that we (FCA) were getting it the following year

Didn't believe him, then, but it turned out to be true, the spring of 1990, we got issued
with the geansai and the trousers, but for some reason, at the time, we didn't get the
green Working Dress shirt that went with it - that took a little longer, so we had to
wear the SD No 1 shirt with it in the interim

Approx 2-3 years after that, we got issued with the OG combats

As for wearing the DPM shirt out/in - did this ever go out to begin with ?

As per the original A9 Admin Instruction, it was worn inside the trousers
for "Winter Dress", and outside , like a light jacket, for "Summer Dress"

Dunno.Ye aren't scaled for the fleece at present unless you were integrated AFAIK.However as it is new type of dress it is conceivable that they will go on stream for ye.

It looks neat on a neat Soldier...Shit on a bag of shite.

Ditto.Wearing the shirt outside the pants all year round kinda crept in slowly as the pullover fell out of everyday use(dunno why. We never used to wear the old combat jackets on everyday parade.Jumper mostly.)Also i think the more shall we say "rotund" lads didnt like it.TD is correct DFR A9 DPM ammendent still stands and was never amended to say outside the pants at all times.

Anyone else remember the duty web belt with the FF crest? They look much better than the standard clasp buckle.

Yep.Was supposed to be issued to replace the wearing of the 58 Ptn belt over the old combats and with SD.Axed when DPM went on issue.Wouldnt like to use one as a trouser belt.Buckle is too bulky.Wouldnt like to be in a sitting positionin a FFR/GS wearing one of em with CBA and battlevest on over it.Not comfy

[CS Gass]

leaving the smock for field work seems like a great idea, it very rarely looks presentable on parade

out of interest, was talking to PDF mate recently about all the gucci new kit and the smock came up and I was saying how it makes a lot of us look like camouflage penguins in it and he said that he and some of his mates had solved this by after removing the lining they got mammy to stitch 4 or 5 of the smock type buttons on the inside of the waistband and then stiched loops of shoe lace on the inner side of the skirt so the skirt part could be folded up and buttoned to keep it in place thus halving it's lenght, he swore that it settles down and doesnt look like a ballet dress, has anyone else done this? If the smock was only used for tactics it could go unnoticed by anyone who'd care

[ODIN]

Personally, I am surprised that the smock hasn't undergone a redesign with the advent of the IPLCS, considering that the vest would make access to the smock pockets difficult. Also, if the smock is intended in future to be for tactical use only, why in the name of god are the powers that be branding it with "Defence Forces Ireland" and a huge tri-colour?

[CS Gass]

Also, if the smock is intended in future to be for tactical use only, why in the name of god are the powers that be branding it with "Defence Forces Ireland" and a huge tri-colour?

I've heard its part 1 of some drive to bring distinctiveness to the uniform overseas, part 2 is the introduction of red smocks and part 3 is the issuing of bearskin helmet covers

[apod]

Personally, I am surprised that the smock hasn't undergone a redesign with the advent of the IPLCS, considering that the vest would make access to the smock pockets difficult. Also, if the smock is intended in future to be for tactical use only, why in the name of god are the powers that be branding it with "Defence Forces Ireland" and a huge tri-colour?

Hence the addition of zips to the pockets on the chest.Also with the battlevest we tend to use that to store what was once carried in the chest pockets of the smock.
Dont claim to understand what goes through the brasses heads but i do know tha over a year ago D ADMIN decreed that the large tricolour(Badge no 310) would be re-introduced for overseas use as a "force protection " measure.This led to the ridiculous situation of the lads having to cut off or stitch on over the miniature tri-colour(Badge no 310M).The new design will rectify the situation.Do i think its a good idea? Look back at my previous posts on the subject for that answer.and a solution.

[BANDIT]

Sounds like Paris fashion week . All this Guicci gear and who in the hell can carry it. Too much emphasis on gear and not enough on the man carrying it.

[apod]

Ahem.

[BANDIT]

You could put all the fancy gear on the guy with the beard at the new york pararde and he would still lool like a hairy fat overweight excuse for a soldier. If thats the standard then scrap the reserve and save money.