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They were based on a whaler hull but.i dont think any Flower class Corvette had a confirmed kill of any cetaceans.
By the end of WW2 most users of the flower class had upgraded to The castle class. When we got our 3 flowers there was as many retired castles available and these were far more suitable for ocean work...
But anyway....
The state was being offered a multitude of surplus kit, post war, but instead close to spend the absolute minimum on the bare minimum on equipment that in many cases continued in service until the 70s and even 80s.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by Auldsod View PostThey aren't whalers. The design was inspired by a whaler design but that's it.
I always thought we were the last users of the Flower Class, but Portugal had one in service as did Greece after us.What always amused me about them was back in 1940 they were considered as a 'stop gap ' convoy escort, what gap were the successive governments going to fill with them 35 years after they were purchased.
The Ford, Dodge , Leyland and even the Landsverks were in fact useless since conception in any armoured warfare concept and weren't even useful as recce vehicles because of their limited off road mobility.... lets not even go there with Beaverettes
Panhards were light years ahead of anything previous but weren't that far advanced that the lineage couldn't be traced back to wartime armour, they were within 10 years of their introduction , obselete.
Timoney....well that was a real hiding to no where
Mowag and BAE vehicles.... will probably be in service as long as the Fords were.Last edited by hptmurphy; 1 August 2019, 12:10.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Mowag/General Dynamics seem to have a hull design that can be upgraded with new drive train, powerplant and armament as time goes by. However vehicles, like the Unimog, Landsverk and Ford were built around a truck chassis and any possible modification was possible only if the chassis could accommodate the change. In most cases, it couldn't. (THREAD DRIFT) Were the landsverks original armament upgraded with cannon taken from the spitfires or vampires or something? Results were questionable.
The Panhard was a design developed from an inter-war scout car design, and built to counter the type of threat found during the 2nd world war. By 1963 it was a mature design, that the French had long decided would only be for export to their former colonies. Meanwhile they had moved on to the AMX10 , ERC and VBC, basically light tanks with tyres, while they offered the likes of us the 1950s panhard upgraded with a bigger main gun, as useful in combat as a derringer against a smg. Your first shot better kill, because the enemy response will finish you off.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostI was being sarcastic.......
I always thought we were the last users of the Flower Class, but Portugal had one in service as did Greece after us.What always amused me about them was back in 1940 they were considered as a 'stop gap ' convoy escort, what gap were the successive governments going to fill with them 35 years after they were purchased.
The Ford, Dodge , Leyland and even the Landsverks were in fact useless since conception in any armoured warfare concept and weren't even useful as recce vehicles because of their limited off road mobility.... lets not even go there with Beaverettes
Panhards were light years ahead of anything previous but weren't that far advanced that the lineage couldn't be traced back to wartime armour, they were within 10 years of their introduction , obselete.
Timoney....well that was a real hiding to no where
Mowag and BAE vehicles.... will probably be in service as long as the Fords were.
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From the Yank, a video with some interesting old films and photos over the years!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oarLQY6VJzs
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostTo be fair to the Landsverk company the L-60 tanks were not bad when the entered service in 35/36 but with only 2 what were we ever going to do with them. They were a half decent light tank.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Were the landsverks original armament upgraded with cannon taken from the spitfires or vampires or something
Hispanos taken from Vampires but rate of fire was too high and had to be retarded for vehicle use causing serviceability issues, very prone to stopages when firing below the cyclic rate they were designed for.
By 1963 it was a mature design, that the French had long decided would only be for export to their former colonies. Meanwhile they had moved on to the AMX10 , ERC and VBC,
Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostThe EBR served alongside the AML in France. The EBR was replaced in service by the AMX10RC while the AML was replaced by the VBC90 (In 1983).
Would be fitting our normal practice of buying something that was good in its time but is going obsolete!Last edited by EUFighter; 2 August 2019, 11:14.
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Even if I only mentioned the AMX10RCs as a joke....the display of "ohhh no that we could not do" has been classic, and in any case;
Did the AML's and Scorpion's all had the same spares, same munitions, same driver and crew courses as the MOWAGs???
And btw, the Belgium would gladly sell us their MOWAG Piranha IIIc 90mm variants if we ever made serious inquiries, ahhh but they have IIIc and ours are IIIh, shame.
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