47 years old, two young kids. Job down the toilet, the man is paying a heavy price.
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Punishments awardable in this instance were:
1. Imprisonment for 2 years.
2. Dismissal with ignominy from the Defence Forces.
3. Dismissal from the Defence Forces.
4. Reduction to any lower commissioned army rank.
5. Forfeiture of seniority of rank.
6. A fine not exceeding an amount equal to ten days’ pay.
7. Severe reprimand.
8. Reprimand.
Options rather than mandatory.
He may have being regarded as someone who did not
know when to give it up.?
The court president would have to be very sure that any appeal would fail or a powerful precedent would be set that his descisions could be overturned other wise he has an agenda that won't be questioned and this a big time warning shot that Court Martials are back in vogue.
I.E. how to get rid of people on trumped up charges without having to buy them off.
Back to the Rank thing. Happened a few years ago, officer was alledged to be insubordinate, lost seniority, end of career.Gone quietly within a few years...and the allegation him was far greater than telling his CO that he was a prick..was actually closer to mutiny but thats how it went.
So wheres the precedent and whats the agenda?
Why rock the boat so big time now over what is in effect a very trivial charge given the lower levels of punishment.?
Does a private telling a corporal that he's a prick warrant dismissal or is it because the Lt Col could have him court martial that he did and that a reprimand would be a very minor punishment for a Court Martial force the president into pushing it to the higher grades of punishments.?
Should he have pleaded guilty would the punishment have been any less severe?Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Had a chat with a PDF CQ. He reckons that the the top brass are of the opinion that discipline standards have fallen and they are trying to correct the situation. He also reckons that if all comments were dealt with like that there would be very few left in the DF. Also, as they have the prision back they feel they should use it.
Don't know if that's the case.I'm not a number, I'm a free man.
Who is number 1?
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Originally posted by The Prisoner View PostHad a chat with a PDF CQ. He reckons that the the top brass are of the opinion that discipline standards have fallen and they are trying to correct the situation. He also reckons that if all comments were dealt with like that there would be very few left in the DF. Also, as they have the prision back they feel they should use it.
Don't know if that's the case.
Absense and being under the influence are major issues as he see's it.Anyone need a spleen ?
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Originally posted by Barry View PostIf they're going to jail him I'd imagine they'd only let him go at the end of the sentance, in order to be able to keep him in a military prison. Besides, he still has the right to appeal the verdict, so they can do nothing yet.
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostI heard that some units maintain a "kitty" from which fines can be paid, such is the frequency of individuals being deducted days pay etc for various offences.No shows for duty being the most common.CRIME SCENE INSTIGATOR
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Does anybody have any stats on the output of the CM court,in cases as reported on the Board there has always been a guilty verdict with,at least loss of career.
In relation to most recent case it was stated he was a serial redresser with 180 complaints filed. Given that in the usual run of things these would involve officers of equal or superior rank he must have redressed virtually every such officer several times over and gone through a fair few others appointed as investigators.
I read the reports of the Ombudsman (ODF) and I dont recall any mention by her of abuse of redress system on the scale alleged by the prosecution.
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