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    camouflage - what works, what doesn't


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    Speaking as someone who up until very recently spent a substantial amount of time in the moutains and shitty planted forests of Wicklow pretty much anything that isn't luminous or reflective works as long as it isn't breaking one of the five S's.

    That said, the US army digital pattern tends to bleed in the local colour scheme from about 15m outwards, so it starts to look green.

    In much the same way that the colour pattern in our DPM tends to blob together at any sort of distance.
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    The odds on the Naval Service bringing back dazzle?



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    The US pattern looks great for the updated version of FISH which is FOSS (Fighting On Someone Sofa).

    DPM Nametags and rank markings make you invisible apparently.

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    Hi there,
    The dazzle pattern did work, though. I have read that it was quite difficult to guage range when trying to sight upon one, as well as being very hard to distinguish in low light conditions.It must have been a penance to paint in the first place and to maintain. God knows how they managed to persuade their Lordships to put down the battleship grey.
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    Now the top photo has found a ntaural hiding place for a soldier, how about in the field..can't be too many couches in Afghanistan
    Time for another break I think......

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    You can see the boots easily..clearly a supply failure.shoot him in the boots!
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    He put a bullet through his brain.
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    I heard a rumour that it is nearly impossible to see a certain shade of pink in the desert at night...
    Can anyone shed any light on this?

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    Thinking of something like this maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traumagod View Post



    Thinking of something like this maybe?
    Exactly, not the most macho colour!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck View Post
    rotten but no polishing
    Yeah, that thing was trialed, but fortunately not adopted !!

    I hear we are now going to coyote brown boots, for wear with both woodland and desert uniforms. We will now have 4 pairs of boots, vs the 8 I have now... (combat boots, gore-tex boots, jungle boots, desert boots...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle View Post
    Yeah, that thing was trialed, but fortunately not adopted !!

    I hear we are now going to coyote brown boots, for wear with both woodland and desert uniforms. We will now have 4 pairs of boots, vs the 8 I have now... (combat boots, gore-tex boots, jungle boots, desert boots...)
    its horrible but effective in the field id imagine!
    I knew a simple soldier boy.....
    Who grinned at life in empty joy,
    Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
    And whistled early with the lark.

    In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
    With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
    He put a bullet through his brain.
    And no one spoke of him again.

    You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
    Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
    Sneak home and pray you'll never know
    The hell where youth and laughter go.

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    Groundhog;275444]Liu Bolin. Undoubtedly the master
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    There is no point in having the best camo and standing in the open

    a couple of steps to his rear and he could have been well camo'd and in some

    type of actual cover.



    His blue ankles give him away




    Why didnt he simply go the other side of the batch loaf van

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    Got to admit, Irish DPM would rather stand out in this. Desert would be a bit better, but not much, mind.

    And it wouldn't be a contest in an urban area.

    FWIW, there is a new ACU pattern being tested, it incorporates a fourth colour: Brown.



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    Is that similar to the German and Belgian Air Force
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Tanker View Post
    FWIW, there is a new ACU pattern being tested, it incorporates a fourth colour: Brown.

    Its a good thing camoflage doesn't have to look good cause that has to be the uglyest camoflage I have ever seen.
    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul View Post
    Its a good thing camoflage doesn't have to look good cause that has to be the uglyest camoflage I have ever seen.
    Poor guy, it's gonna take him ages to wash the vomit out of that uniform...........
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    Maybe the SS got it right, oh, sixty odd years ago, with their woodland pattern........all camouflage is relative, especially when you get wet and dirty and the blending-in problem is solved. Not changing it until it rots off you also helps.
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    Spot the difference! If it works........


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