Packing list Battle vest and Backpack

[holdfast]

anyone have the connect packing list for the battle vest, I got a photocopy and its brutal. Cheers

[Truck Driver]

anyone have the connect packing list for the battle vest, I got a photocopy and its brutal. Cheers

Do you know the date of the issue and I can go and root aound for it

[DeV]

That was a packing list for wing selection it was more of less the same as the PLCE one a few years ago, just the locations were different.

[Celtic-Warrior]

Is that the same as the NCO Trg Wing Handout?

[DeV]

Again the one in Connect was for ARW selection.... very different from NCO Trg Wg pull out.

[holdfast]

Got it, cheers for the hand lads

[X-RayOne]

any chance of printing both versions here please?

[trellheim]

Didn't AnCosantoir or Connect go online ?

[SwiftandSure]

any chance of printing both versions here please?

Here's one...

[SwiftandSure]

The ARW one is too big and won't attach, if you want it, PM me

[concussion]

PM it to me S&S, I can host it on Scribd.

[Celtic-Warrior]

Is there a PLCE ARW Selection one or is it just the one for the IPLCS with the lad with the 2 kit bags?

[ZULU]

There was awing PLCE packing list in connect a while back.

[DeV]

Is there a PLCE ARW Selection one or is it just the one for the IPLCS with the lad with the 2 kit bags?

The kit is the same in the 2 just where they are is different

[apod]

Gonna throw a spanner in the works here for a minute.If you are normal PDF/RDF infantry etc the wing packing list is probably not the best to follow.Its specific to selection and the idea is to load you up to a set weight for their tests.Thats BEFORE you get issued Ordnance.If you go by their packing list you will end up carrying too much and be wrecked alltoghter when your Pln Sgt or Sect 2i/c divvys out the kit to you.
Just as an example.if you go by the ARW packing list.You are carrying 2x 2.1 Litre Camelbacks and two 1 Litre issue waterbottles.Thats 6.2 litres of water.Unless you are SF doing long range Recce.Which we arent.You dont need that much.
Just some food for thought.

[spaceghetti]

Gonna throw a spanner in the works here for a minute.If you are normal PDF/RDF infantry etc the wing packing list is probably not the best to follow.Its specific to selection and the idea is to load you up to a set weight for their tests.Thats BEFORE you get issued Ordnance.If you go by their packing list you will end up carrying too much and be wrecked alltoghter when your Pln Sgt or Sect 2i/c divvys out the kit to you.
Just as an example.if you go by the ARW packing list.You are carrying 2x 2.1 Litre Camelbacks and two 1 Litre issue waterbottles.Thats 6.2 litres of water.Unless you are SF doing long range Recce.Which we arent.You dont need that much.
Just some food for thought.

I thought it was just the vest? Where would you fit 2 camelbaks and 2 canteens? As well as all the other stuff? Or does the packing list include daysack as well?

[apod]

Going by the ARW list you carry one Camelbak in the vest and the other in the Daysack(or a two litre plastic bottle).The two waterbottles go in the side pouch of the Bergen.
The snag with carrying a camelbak in the vest whilst wearing the daysack is that the movement of a fully laden daysack whilst say doing contact drills for example can cause the Bladder underneath to burst.This is only made worse if you have CBA on under your vest as the camelbak gets caught between the rear plate and the daysack.
What we normally do is to carry one camelbak in the daysack.Vest and daysack is CEFO anyway.We rarely operate in just vests apart from Mech Inf.

[spaceghetti]

Going by the ARW list you carry one Camelbak in the vest and the other in the Daysack(or a two litre plastic bottle).The two waterbottles go in the side pouch of the Bergen.
The snag with carrying a camelbak in the vest whilst wearing the daysack is that the movement of a fully laden daysack whilst say doing contact drills for example can cause the Bladder underneath to burst.This is only made worse if you have CBA on under your vest as the camelbak gets caught between the rear plate and the daysack.
What we normally do is to carry one camelbak in the daysack.Vest and daysack is CEFO anyway.We rarely operate in just vests apart from Mech Inf.

I actually had that same problem with my old 1.5ltr camelbak, it had a lot of pressure on it when i was carrying a pack that i thought it would burst, so I went out and got a 3ltr and basically just filled it up half way. It helped a good bit because the extra space allows it to spread out more over your back. I put the 1.5ltr one in my daysack or in the bergen then.

[paul]

The snag with carrying a camelbak in the vest whilst wearing the daysack is that the movement of a fully laden daysack whilst say doing contact drills for example can cause the Bladder underneath to burst.This is only made worse if you have CBA on under your vest as the camelbak gets caught between the rear plate and the daysack.

There much be fairly s**t then. I have always had source, they are literally strong enough to stand on when full. I've fallen from a four foot drop onto my back whist wearing CBA and have it not burst (13 stone, excluding all the gear) I'll always swear by them.


RVOps video.

[apod]

There much be fairly s**t then. I have always had source, they are literally strong enough to stand on when full. I've fallen from a four foot drop onto my back whist wearing CBA and have it not burst (13 stone, excluding all the gear) I'll always swear by them.

Good for you mate.Actually Camelbak are fairly good.I guess thats why they are the most widely issued Hydration bladder worldwide.But a plastic bladder is just that.Plastic.You put enough force against it.It will burst.No matter who makes it.

[Barry]

Good for you mate.Actually Camelbak are fairly good.I guess thats why they are the most widely issued Hydration bladder worldwide.But a plastic bladder is just that.Plastic.You put enough force against it.It will burst.No matter who makes it.

Yes, but if the internal pressure when you put it in between your back and a heavy bergen only reaches levels which will cause failure when the bergen is far heavier than any human could carry then it's safe enough to leave it in your vest with a bergen on (not that I'm saying that the source bladders are necessarily capable of withstanding this, just pointing out that it's not impossible).

I own both a camelbak and a couple of source bladders - I use the source ones, every time. The openings, seams and the material itself are far sturdier, they're less of a drama to clean (put your hand inside your camelbak some day and have a feel of the slime that builds up on them), and as the nice people at RVOps demonstrate, you can stand on it without it bursting, which is not something I'd even try with a camelbak. I suspect, apod, that the reason why camelbaks are so widely issued is more to do with interoperability with CBRN kit that you get with camelbaks than with reasons of quality - the tender would say "must be compatible with CBRN drinking tube", thus automatically disqualifying source bladders.

[apod]

A distinct possibility on the CBRN front.However there is an anti microbial coating on the inside of the issue Camelbaks to prevent the build up you speak of.They still need a good clean out though every so often having said all that.
As for the weight thing i will still advocate transfering the bladder to the daysack when worn with the vest.Why take the chance of loosing your vital water.I have seen bladders leak whilst on fairly arduous exercises.Maybe it was the bladder,or maybe it was the user.Who knows.Its never happened to me thankfully.Perhaps because i dont take the chance and i look after my kit.Who knows.

[spaceghetti]

(put your hand inside your camelbak some day and have a feel of the slime that builds up on them).

It depends on what type of camelbak you get. Some types have them, some don't. I have that lining in my one anyways.

[concussion]

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[piper_69]

Actually Source do make a CBRN compatible tube.