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    Ha the drybags & other ancillaries got lost going from Bde to Bn stores, just got the BV, helmet, Daysack & main pack. Think i'll buy one of those dump pouches to put on the BV belt for empty mags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    Ha the drybags & other ancillaries got lost going from Bde to Bn stores, just got the BV, helmet, Daysack & main pack. Think i'll buy one of those dump pouches to put on the BV belt for empty mags.
    what kind of mickey mouse BS is that??Get your Q staff to source it!!IPLCS comes as a kit.All those pieces are part of it.The only thing my stores won't issue to RDF as a H&S issue is the camelbaks.They get brand new waterbottles,Avon,instead.Other than that they get full IPLCS and full sleeping system and wetgear.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    It's the pooled kit experience apod. What's issued to bods varies widely from unit to unit and the condition of said kit varies. Eg my daysack was missing the buckle on the hip belt, Lowe alpine were sound enough to send me a buckle so I'm sorted. Fast forward a year or 2 and the gear will have broken and missing bits all over the place. I won't bother pushing for the drybags as I have my own, ditto for camelbak. Luckily I have my own "buckshee" wets as I'd have to wear someone else's dirty set if I didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    what kind of mickey mouse BS is that??Get your Q staff to source it!!IPLCS comes as a kit.All those pieces are part of it.The only thing my stores won't issue to RDF as a H&S issue is the camelbaks.They get brand new waterbottles,Avon,instead.Other than that they get full IPLCS and full sleeping system and wetgear.
    I got full IPLCS (including all pouches, large & small packs c/w liners) plus helmet, 2 x Camelbac, W/B with CBRN adapter, googles, elbow pads, knee pads (off the top of my head).

    But no sleeping system or wet gear

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    The vast majority of the stores in my unit are brand new and still in the wrapping but some is used and some very well used. The ancillaries for the BV I have not seen is our stores either.
    Using the method in this video you can get the length of your back and then adjust your bergen yourself seeing as most place don't seem to have the stick yet.
    The bergen has the back length in inches written beside each adjustment position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F_M View Post
    The vast majority of the stores in my unit are brand new and still in the wrapping but some is used and some very well used. The ancillaries for the BV I have not seen is our stores either.
    Using the method in this video you can get the length of your back and then adjust your bergen yourself seeing as most place don't seem to have the stick yet.
    The bergen has the back length in inches written beside each adjustment position.
    Very good, nice one F_M....
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    We have the bare bones too, bought my own dump pouch.

    Really with nothing written in stone, its going to be different from unit to unit.
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    dump pouch or drop leg pouch?
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    Dump pouch, you can get them for a tenner from China. Don't put anything on your legs if you can avoid it.

    http://images2.opticsplanet.com/365-...dump-pouch.jpg
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    http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/...Pouch-p228.htm

    I bought one of these and have it on one of the side pouches of the vest.
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    I agree about having things on the legs but I've been issued one so if I need one I'll use it and at least it wlil be secured and not banging off me
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    I agree about having things on the legs but I've been issued one so if I need one I'll use it and at least it wlil be secured and not banging off me
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    Remove rear strap from issue dump pouch.Place strap in secure location so it doesn't get lost.Attach pouch to vest at left hip.Tighten straps till pouch top is just below bottom hem of vest.Tape straps.pouch will be empty most of the time so wont bounce.When needed all you will have in it is empties anyway(max4).

    Also seeing as most of you don't get issued Respirators you can attach the Resi pouch to the front of the bergen or side of the patrol pack.makes a handy pouch for your basha kit!
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    When setting up an IPLCS BV your move the admin pouch to the lower left PALS strips.The H.E Grenade pouch goes lower right.M203 goes top left(if worn).Top right should only have your nametag and rank slide loop above that in order to keep your shoulder free for rifle butt placement.
    I posted on this already in the "Good kit/helpfull hints forum".
    Why do you ask? Areb the RDF issued the IPLCS now?
    A lot of sense here. Must rejig the pouches on my vest before I hand it back in
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    Kit update.The issue cam cream is no longer coming in the two tone stick/tube but comes in a small three tone compact c/w mirror.Also the issue hexi cooker now has the adapter for the metal mug.Thought ye might like to know whats out there.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Kit update.The issue cam cream is no longer coming in the two tone stick/tube but comes in a small three tone compact c/w mirror.
    Hope it's better than the sh1t one in Millets etc

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    That's been the casefor a while now. Few years.
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    I guess my lot only got in a new batch recently so.Probably working through the older stuff for a while.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    I guess my lot only got in a new batch recently so.Probably working through the older stuff for a while.
    I think the new hexi's are POS gelert ones?
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    Issue hexi cooker with adapter for metal mug.
    Issue plastic mug instead of metal one.
    Another win for the army!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    I think the new hexi's are POS gelert ones?
    I have seen those but the latest ones I saw in crates the other day were the good BA type ones with the full size hexi blocks.

    Quote Originally Posted by F_M View Post
    Issue hexi cooker with adapter for metal mug.
    Issue plastic mug instead of metal one.
    Another win for the army!
    Metal mug(Crusader type) has been on issue to PDF since 1998.Available to RDF from stores for issue for exercises also.Same as IPLCS,sleeping systems,Helmets etc.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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