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    I could be way off the mark but the NS seems to be conducting more transport and landing exercises with the Army recently
    Its been going on for years, but the amounts shipped could as easily be deployed by helis if you had sufficient helis.
    Just visiting

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    It's kind of party tricks using troops of any Corps. Better a Marine based heavy company happy in the environment aboard ship and trained in assault and landings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    It's kind of party tricks using troops of any Corps. Better a Marine based heavy company happy in the environment aboard ship and trained in assault and landings.
    The DF is too small to justify it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    The DF is too small to justify it
    The DF/DoD/Govt is too fixed in their vested interests in keeping geographically dispersed barracks for local votes to consider strategic consolidation of forces to provide the flexibility to innovate towards a Maritime/Amphibious hybrid service. Considering Ireland is an Island and all.

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    So we have gone from frigates, to LPDs, to a Marine Corps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    So we have gone from frigates, to LPDs, to a Marine Corps!
    Don't forget the NS air wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    So we have gone from frigates, to LPDs, to a Marine Corps!
    It's a topic of a few military forces

    http://www.navy.mil.nz/nap/news/2012...task-force.htm

    http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/en/news...-capabilities/

    http://www.marina.difesa.it/EN/Conos...1014_ermo.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    The DF is too small to justify it
    Not really, it's not difficult stuff - unless you're a loon who's thinking about a fourth arm of service, uniforms, regulations, chain of command etc...

    You just take, for example, A Coy 2nd Bn and you tell that from now on they are maritime focused - they would spend time as small groups on NS vessels, they would operate the secondary weapons during gunnery exercises, they would do lots of daughter craft and landing exercises and they would focus on both operating within the NS on deployment and acting as the enabling capability for larger Army formations to operate alongside the NS.

    A reasonable template might be the Mountain Leader branch of the RM - though you wouldn't need to make the set up so formal - you could have a mix of people serving in it, people who really fancy it and who stay for perhaps a decade, and people who do it on a 3 year tour. You could do the same thing for Mountain/Arctic warfare, desert, jungle - or even things like Anti-tank, or Reece - you know, like you already do...

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    Let's equip them with hover robot tanks with lasers

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    It's no more ridiculous or unjustifiable than having a whole corps for transport or having an air defence regiment.
    It's a particular skill set and having a company or even a battalion who specialise in marine type action doesn't mean that they need special uniforms or even, necessarily, special equipment. Maybe an extra rhib or three. Also doesn't mean they can't still be infantry and other units can't learn to get out of an rhib.

    Where it all breaks down is relevance when no DF units deploy overseas as units... So what would be the point?

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    I suppose it is about as relevant as having artillery units. We don't deploy those overseas either.

    The tasking of a particular unit to the role is not a fantasy. We have done it before, just look at the predecessor to 1 Mech.

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    Big difference technically between crewing, maintaining and tactically employing an APC based force (up to Bn minus) and an amphibious light inf coy level force with nothing bigger than RHIBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Big difference technically between crewing, maintaining and tactically employing an APC based force (up to Bn minus) and an amphibious light inf coy level force with nothing bigger than RHIBs.
    yeah, its much more expensive, time consuming and logistically demanding to equip, train and deploy the former than the latter.

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