And how long does it take to go from cadet day 1 to officer with NWC or day 1 apprentice to qualified ERA ?
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Orla/Ciara & Eithne are not going anywhere for a good while yet.
P 64 will be the 9th ship within two years but within three years of that unless there is continual building regardless of type, potentially you could be back below that number quite quickly.
As another thread is already saying, expand the ships and you need to expand establishment.
We have an establishment for 7 ships crewing 8.
We don't have the bodies to crew 9 without expansion.
And pay restoration to keep the youngest staff longer than 6-12 months.
Those who have joined in the bigger recruitment drives in the past two years will be gone before the next build is finished, 100 recruits per year is not going to address the current shortfall never mind any forthcoming brain drain.
But as always as the economy improves the lack of parity between the public and private sector means people will be out the door in droves, and the more upskilling and education the NS provide the more attractive people become to the private sector.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by DeV View PostAnd how long does it take to go from cadet day 1 to officer with NWC or day 1 apprentice to qualified ERA ?
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Originally posted by DeV View PostWith regard to the Damen XO131L which was spoken of here, it seems to broadly fit into the specs of the EPV RFT, it could carry the Irish elements of the EUBG ISTAR TF (it would mean that the helideck and hanger would be full).
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostWhat helos would be used?
If it is the Swedish Battlegroup, the Swedes provide 4 x NH90 to the battlegroup. Also there are UAVs to consider.
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostWhat helos would be used?
And then a suitable naval compatable helos sourced and let all the training begin......againCovid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by Graylion View Post
Thats a post about a 95m vessel approximately the same weight as one of the Becket class OPV's, That has cost about 1/2 a billion to build, with a fairly high spec sensor/radar/combat management system, but without very many weapons to ..............you know .........manage?
How, in any way, does this fit even the widest spec for an EPV/MRV?
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostNone.......If the NS are to field helos in the future ships with helos capacity will have to be built. No current plans to do so.
And then a suitable naval compatable helos sourced and let all the training begin......again"We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
Illegitimi non carborundum
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Originally posted by Turkey View PostIt's my opinion that the NS should be allowed pick, operate, and maintain it's own helicopters, independent of the Air Corps.
Don't think we will see it in our lifetime thoughCovid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by Turkey View PostIt's my opinion that the NS should be allowed pick, operate, and maintain it's own helicopters, independent of the Air Corps.Last edited by paul g; 2 August 2016, 17:50.
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The concept in question was a support to FP ops and technology took over and made the concept of using a helicon FP ops redundant and overly expenaive especially when there was no inward investment in the aer corps and helicopter purchase only came about as a necessity as opposed to an option.
Even if flight ops from Eithne had continued to the day the Dauphin had retired we would have had options. Sadly again the foresight was missing and we no longer have the option.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by paul g View PostThey had four helicopters that with a bit of work were ideal for air ops from a ship of about 80 metres, and what did they do but sell them to Chile for a song who use them for exactly that."We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
Illegitimi non carborundum
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