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    AW 139 Tail Rotor Problems

    Can anyone out there confirm that one of the AC 139's had a tail rotor problem while on the ground in Bal. Similar to what has been happening around the rest of the world as seen in the pics attached??
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    The operators name in one of those pics is very carefully covered up.

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    I didn't hearing anything about the AW 139. But I did hear that one of the CASA aircraft has been out of action recently due to some type of "cracks" issue. Hopefully the IAC are working flatout to get both aircraft back in the air. Hopefully the IAC AW139 didn't have the level of damage that the one in the picture has had! If it did, it will be out of action for a while...

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    What are the odds it was the same aircraft?
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    saw them flying today
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    I believe that issue was due to the composite tail section melting in the desert heat, and other aircraft from the same manufacturing facility were checked for similar flaws.
    I understand that is not an Italian Built machine.

    Our exhausts melted.....


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    Which type of tail section boom does the Air Corps aircraft have? May be very wrong here but from what I've read there's more than one type.

    Is there any further info, say published report, on the exhausts melting.
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    Are there any pictures?

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    Nope. When flaws were found elsewhere in the world, a system of maintenance checks were put in place that find any defects before they cause problems. Ours are fine.

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    additional info

    Not the same aircraft but defo the same operator- livery is identical- Gulf Helicopter Ciompany based in Qatar
    pic 1- detached rotor
    pic 2 -rotor still attached to boom
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    An old tech friend of mine who is still serving, told me that he believed that the IAC had three incidents of tail boom damage on the AW 139 during the last year. He also told me though, that regular inspections are carried out to check for damage. So if there is an issue, it is being closely monitored...You can never be to careful with problems like that!

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    If the original aircraft has been repaired you never know, the first incident did take place nearly 2 years ago after all. Seemingly the tail rotor of this latest heli flew off and landed on the tarmac nearly 50m away. Lucky no one was nearby! Here's a photo of another 139 from Hong Kong that had a tail incident recently

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    Some interesting posts about different parts being made in different places of the world. I was under the impression that aw had certain workshops manufacturing parts for there aircraft all to the same spec. Can anyone put any light on if this same problem with the tails has been a problem for the air corps. I have heard that there have been three 139's with a similar problem and tails replaced in the last 12 months. Any truth in this and that the air corps have put a post flight inspection off tail's in place as a result of the current worries about the posiblilty of the tail imploding..

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    The pictured Sky Shuttle incident was widely reported as a bird-strike on take-off which necessitated an immediate controlled ditching by the Capt. that everyone 'swam' away from.

    Haven't heard too much about the Gulf Air one but that's quite a while ago now but wouldn't be holding my breath for the report from there. Industry sources confirm that it had suffered a previous tail-strike which probably led to the structural failure on the ground.

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    [QUOTE=SARMAN;335428.

    Any air corps tech's out there not afraid off posting a comment let us know the truth, not the df and air corps propaganda!!!!!![/QUOTE]

    Keep your fingers quiet ,seriously bad idea to reply in the manner requested.

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    Please do not use IMO as a conduit to bring the DF into disrepute.
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    yes, don't do that! The DF can bring itself into disrepute all on it's own, without any help from you
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    Hi all,
    Pretty much every aircraft with composite structures have suffered failures in the past and will continue to do so, just like metal aircraft. They are inspected regularly and grounded if need be. The Dauphins also had cracks showing up in the tailboom and probably have an inspection programme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Please do not use IMO as a conduit to bring the DF into disrepute.
    Is this directed to me?? Confused as to how I would be bringing the df into disrepute..
    As for danno, do not try and tell me what to post. Get over yourself..
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    SARMAN, Have CHC had many problems with tail failures on their AW139s?


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    Indeed Goldie Fish - Maybe we should open a separate thread on S92 gearbox problems - that should run for a while or maybe "not run" in some cases...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    SARMAN, Have CHC had many problems with tail failures on their AW139s?
    Have no idea, have not heard of any on the SAR aircraft, but I will look into it for you. Chc for all there faults do publish incident and accident reports!!

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    Ya why not open that thread, but no one in Ireland is operating the s92 yet so I do not think the local information on this type of aircraft would be available yet.. Good to see you back..
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    The AC also publish incident reports, as all their incidents go through the AAIU.
    What's your point?


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    Define an incident in the df. I think you will find the AAIU stands for air accident investigation unit. It is a legal requirement for the AAIU to investigate all air accidents in Ireland not the df to submit reports. An incident in the real world would be something quite small not an accident which is on the other end of the scale. That's my point.
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    Something similar to a serious car accident and a fender bender....
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