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    NS shows how its done.

    http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com...ad.php?t=19055

    Well done to FOCNS for some forward thinking.

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    Politics.ie seem to have picked it up too.

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    According to Cdre. Mellett, “.....I could see clearly that I would never be able to compete in the context of large aircraft carriers or large submarines or Tomahawk missile deploying ships..."

    Does that mean small aircraft carriers and small submarines are a possibility?

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    VERy far thinking, however dOES HE ENVISAGE THE NS becoming a research or an SME development unit or a part of the DF. It may be difficult to reconcile both roles .. from development to potential destruction,

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    Quote Originally Posted by BANDIT View Post
    VERy far thinking, however dOES HE ENVISAGE THE NS becoming a research or an SME development unit or a part of the DF. It may be difficult to reconcile both roles .. from development to potential destruction,
    You could compare it to NASA or Boscome down in the early days-only nautical. The experience of the NS available to civilian research. Everyone gains, and it keeps the useful minds near the naval base also.
    Everyone wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyrider View Post
    According to Cdre. Mellett, “.....I could see clearly that I would never be able to compete in the context of large aircraft carriers or large submarines or Tomahawk missile deploying ships..."

    Does that mean small aircraft carriers and small submarines are a possibility?

    Not that I would accuse you of nitpicking, I believe he is making the distinction between our ''Corvette'' type Navy, as distinct from those who operate ''capital'' units, as his submission is for public consumption, not just for us in the 'know'', at the same time not ruleing out the possablity of our NS operating considerably larger vessels, which many are of the opinion that we must get, not to be the bully on the block, but because of the increasingly bad conditions encountered in the North atlantic.
    Probally just stateing the obvious and definitly my own opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    You could compare it to NASA or Boscome down in the early days-only nautical. The experience of the NS available to civilian research. Everyone gains, and it keeps the useful minds near the naval base also.
    Everyone wins.
    or you could interpret it a paying navy personnel rates of pay well above normal post graduate research levels to do something that isn't what they are trained and paid to do!! are navy not a very expensive option for this type of work? doesn't make sense to me, we have no shortage of highly educated young people in the country...?

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    What type of work do you think they'll be doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithy View Post
    or you could interpret it a paying navy personnel rates of pay well above normal post graduate research levels to do something that isn't what they are trained and paid to do!! are navy not a very expensive option for this type of work? doesn't make sense to me, we have no shortage of highly educated young people in the country...?
    isn't that why the NS is engaging with the likes of UCC though. Each side doing what they do best ...

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    UCC is the other player in NMCI

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    UCC is the other player in NMCI
    No it isnt.

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    Apologies goldie CIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Apologies goldie CIT
    Don't apologise to me, apologice to everyone in NMCI.

    MERC3 however is a partnership that includes UCC, NMCI(CIT) and the Naval service, and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Don't apologise to me, apologice to everyone in NMCI.

    MERC3 however is a partnership that includes UCC, NMCI(CIT) and the Naval service, and others.
    UCC Coastal & Marine Research Centre have been based in the Naval Base for a number of years, this is where the ties have built up between the NS & UCC.
    http://cmrc.ucc.ie/

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    Weren't they based in the Block that went on fire?

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    they were indeed, and that's not the only connection between the NS and UCC.
    The NS seem quite proactive in terms of engaging with UCC (and I'm sure other colleges).
    Last edited by derfel_ie; 4th August 2011 at 23:40.

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    Interesting interview/article in September's An Cosantoir featuring the FOCNS as he outlines the future for the Naval Service, including MERC3.
    http://digital.jmpublishing.ie/issue/40301/0

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    The development of maritime unmanned aerial vehicles? It would be interesting to find out more.

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    The development of maritime unmanned aerial vehicles? It would be interesting to find out more
    Are they not happy with the service the Air Corps are providing then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpole View Post
    Are they not happy with the service the Air Corps are providing then?
    "the aircraft are fine, but we would prefer not to have to deal with pilots".

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    It's more to do with the lack of helicopter capable ships than fixed wing land based assets. UAV technology is an area that could be developed here.

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    Not without getting over the biggest stumbling block of them all, the IAA!!!
    Unless of course you want to operate below 400ft and within 500m or line of sight which ever is less!!
    There is of course segregated airspace but for so many reasons its impractical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetjock View Post
    The development of maritime unmanned aerial vehicles? It would be interesting to find out more.
    Remote control submersibles

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Remote control submersibles
    Go underwater.....Unmanned aerial vehicles however, stay above water where possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Go underwater.....Unmanned aerial vehicles however, stay above water where possible...

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