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    The NZDF Defence Capability Plan 2019 has been released:

    https://defence.govt.nz/assets/Uploa...-Plan-2019.pdf

    First up is the replacement of the C-130H and the C-130J-30 has been selected. At this stage no announcement on numbers but likely to be five.

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    why oh why can we not have something like this.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    What we would give for a single C130H, let alone replacing it with a J.
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    why oh why can we not have something like this.
    Rhetorical question?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    why oh why can we not have something like this.
    In fairness, some of that in very broad strokes is covered. Not all in the public domain.

    But I agree it is very much required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Rhetorical question?
    No - a multiyear capital spending and investment framework across buildings equipment and people that isnt metaphorically worse than chucking coppers at a street beggar
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    No - a multiyear capital spending and investment framework across buildings equipment and people that isnt metaphorically worse than chucking coppers at a street beggar
    It is there, there is a joint plan at DoD/DF Level that is developed by a joint committee (that I can’t remember the name of.... High Level Procurement something or other). They do the multi annual plan. It isn’t in the public (not sure about wider DF) domain.

    You would see elements of that appear in other internal DF plans on an annual basis.

    The obvious go into the estimates process, with things being prioritised. Now I’m sure DoD don’t let the DF ask for substantially more money in any one year (eg MRV and 2 CPVs)..... and you can be definite that neither does DPER or indeed the Government.

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    The HLPP is set up to oversee the implementation of the white paper. So there may be similarities.

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    Oh I know about the process, both of you know I do. My point is if I was a Kiwi with only about 300 deployed overseas and a 1.1% GDP defence spend I'd be happy to get behind that plan.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    The HLPP is set up to oversee the implementation of the white paper. So there may be similarities.
    High Level Planning and Procurement Group
    https://www.defence.ie/system/files/...17-english.pdf (Page 9)

    I’ve heard HLIG in relation to the WP.

    Either way though the WP set the strategic procurement priorities for the DF

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Oh I know about the process, both of you know I do. My point is if I was a Kiwi with only about 300 deployed overseas and a 1.1% GDP defence spend I'd be happy to get behind that plan.
    Absolutely look at their budgets for some of those projects

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzHs0j0pYs&t=302s

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