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    Of course BREXIT could effect air ambulances to the UK too

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    AIRCORPS112 arriving at UH Galway shortly before 6pm tonight in miserable weather.
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    Something the Air Corpse should be ashamed of. How can you not provide sufficient pilots so one dedicated air ambulance aircraft can remain available?
    Well, there's good news and bad news. The bad news is that Neil will be taking over both branches, and some of you will lose your jobs. Those of you who are kept on will have to relocate to Swindon, if you wanna stay. I know, gutting. On a more positive note, the good news is, I've been promoted, so... every cloud. You're still thinking about the bad news aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmit� View Post
    Something the Air Corpse should be ashamed of. How can you not provide sufficient pilots so one dedicated air ambulance aircraft can remain available?
    Why the AC fault ?

    Some of it is, some of it isn’t - work practices some may be a DFHQ and/or DoD issue. Eg should AC pilots have to do the 6 mth Army JCSC.

    The pilot retention scheme was initiated around 1997 - that is how long this dates back, DoD decided to discontinue it to save €600k a year

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    It takes between 4 & 5 complete crews to provide a full on-demand 24hr service, 7 days a week. And each of those crews has to maintain their IFR/night ratings at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUFighter View Post
    It takes between 4 & 5 complete crews to provide a full on-demand 24hr service, 7 days a week. And each of those crews has to maintain their IFR/night ratings at the same time.
    And the establishment (never mind the strength) may not even allow that

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    It is worth mentioning that neither the Air Corp nor the Coast Guard can provide this service.

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    http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/fil...R34_2000-0.PDF

    Safety recommendation from Tramore, AAIU recommending the DoD address the loss of AC pilots

    Loss of personnel and related issues featured in:
    5 Of the 26 systemic findings

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    In the time of Tramore, there was no proper shift system for pilots or mechs. You were "on" for 24 hrs, regardless of the number of flights and you were expected to get sleep as and when you could, so a quiet day meant you got plenty of sleep and a busy day meant you didn't. It was the same on the Border and was well-established practise, flawed but considered normal.... The pilot retention scheme was a farce, because it was based around a threat, ie, we'll leave and go to the airlines unless you pay us more... and some of the "pilots" were non-flyers, who manned desks in ground appointments and flew once a year to keep their Wings and Flying pay.....right now, the DF can't compete with civvy jobs because the pay is (but not always) sub-par, the pension is gone to shit (but still better than a lot of civvy pensions) and the use of shifts means that it's just like a civvy job and the threat of having to do an overseas tour is sending people out the gate...

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    The establishment as far as I’ve seen isn’t set up for it.

    ATC isn’t 24/7 anymore due to lack of personnel

    I very much doubt when you have half the amount of techs (someone of whom could be trainees) that a shift system can be run effectively

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    How many other countries in Europe use their dedicated military air arm to complete this role?

    I don't know the answer but when I read this the first thing I thought was is this Air Corps business?
    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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    Quote Originally Posted by spider View Post
    How many other countries in Europe use their dedicated military air arm to complete this role? ...
    The AC isn't a military air arm, it's the direct labour organisation with aeroplanes...

    That's not a dig, or a piss take, or a rhetorical flourish - look at the list of what the AC does, then ask yourself what tasks get prioritised and what tasks get bumped off when an aircraft goes tech or a crew is off sick?

    How often do civilian tasks - air ambulance, fisheries, bog watching and whatever other bollocks task - get binned so that aircraft can support an Army or NS exercise?

    That's a deliberate policy and a culture formed by that long running policy - Government sets that policy following DOD advice, but the AC is no innocent victim: how many former senior officers, whether AC or Army or NS, go public with criticism about the squandering of these resources on 'parish pump' tasks and how that impacts the efficiency and effectiveness of the DF and it's duty to protect the state?

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