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Originally posted by Pure Hover View PostDon't think so - type pressure has nothing to do with helicopters landing on soft terrain - more to do with Weight of the helicopter on the surface in question. IRCG hehicopters are heavier still - why don't they have skids fitted if they're involved in EAS ops?
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Numerous pictures of Medevac 112 facebook page of EAS AW139 at incident site with skis fitted to main undercarriage not nose, due to high ground pressure from narrow high pressure tires. tire pressure has everything to do with helicopters/aircraft on soft terrain hence why aircraft like the C-130 use large low pressure tires for landing on rough terrain, also example of AW101 using double main wheels of large low pressure type
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Originally posted by Pure Hover View PostDon't think so - type pressure has nothing to do with helicopters landing on soft terrain - more to do with Weight of the helicopter on the surface in question. IRCG hehicopters are heavier still - why don't they have skids fitted if they're involved in EAS ops?
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Originally posted by Rhodes View PostThe pilot EAS air ambulance based in Athlone has been extended again until December. Its going to be made permanent once the Government approve the decision and will probably be made public on budget day. There is also a plan to make it a 24hr service.
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Originally posted by Helihead View PostIt`s HEMS ops the IRCG do PH. The 92 doesn't need them .....because it has the right amount of wheels on its undercarriage (6 in total) for the variety of operations it carries out. Something the 139 doesn't have and a big failing in its undercarriage design for the type of operations it is carrying out and probably overlooked by theIAC when deciding what Heli would replace the Dauphine/Alouette fleet, hence the addition of the skis.
Originally posted by Helihead View PostAny update ??? Budget day has been and gone. Rumour has it a protential new AOC holder is eyeing this one up.
Originally posted by Helihead View PostEnlighten me Rhodes ?
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"Id really like to see a S-92 landing on boggy ground. Forcing a time critical casualty to be transported by road to a football pitch or park because you cant land on unprepared landing sites and waiting for land based staff to drive to any possible site to check the ground before landing is unacceptable and ridicules."
It can be done to the first bit, it is not rocket science. You are totally misinformed on the remainder. In relation to the "unacceptable and ridicules", be careful of the unprepared landing site. They can bite back from time to time, need I say anymore.
In relation to an announcement being made about about EAS. Its now "anyones guess"...ok. EASA rules and regs come into effect at the end of this month I believe that might have some influence on that outcome.
As for comms fit in IRCG aircraft...well, lets just say it`s as what was requested by the customer and all Well up to date, but no matter how well up to date it is, it is limited in its range at low level. Something to do with Physics....I suggest if you get a chance, talk to someone in signals, they will explain the basics to you. Then go and talk to someone who knows something about top cover.
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Originally posted by Helihead View Post"Id really like to see a S-92 landing on boggy ground. Forcing a time critical casualty to be transported by road to a football pitch or park because you cant land on unprepared landing sites and waiting for land based staff to drive to any possible site to check the ground before landing is unacceptable and ridicules."
It can be done to the first bit, it is not rocket science. You are totally misinformed on the remainder. In relation to the "unacceptable and ridicules", be careful of the unprepared landing site. They can bite back from time to time, need I say anymore.
In relation to an announcement being made about about EAS. Its now "anyones guess"...ok. EASA rules and regs come into effect at the end of this month I believe that might have some influence on that outcome.
As for comms fit in IRCG aircraft...well, lets just say it`s as what was requested by the customer and all Well up to date, but no matter how well up to date it is, it is limited in its range at low level. Something to do with Physics....I suggest if you get a chance, talk to someone in signals, they will explain the basics to you. Then go and talk to someone who knows something about top cover.
The pilot EAS has been extended until December and decision has been made to make it permanent, no matter what is going to happen at the end of the month and how much you envy the Air Corps great service.
What altitude do the ships and boats fly at that contact Coast Guard bases on land requesting help? If a vessel in the Irish SAR region can contact Coast Guard bases but the rescue helicopter flying higher cant then there is something seriously wrong.
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What altitude do the ships and boats fly at that contact Coast Guard bases on land requesting help?Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Been busy the past while, what have I missed?!
Reference the comms fit of the S92, check out this link-
Rhodes, not sure if you are aware but the landing sites for EAS flights are selected by the National Aeromedical Co-ordination Centre (NACC). They have a vast network of pre determined landing sites that they selected in conjunction with the IAC. Both the 92 and 139 crews are told where to go to meet the ambulance. There is no problem with a CG 92 setting down on a closed motorway, random field or wherever else its deemed necissery but that's a NACC decision as they have to tie in the road ambulance and helicopter. Naturally for SAR the 92 can and does land anywhere big enough and the only issues posed by the surface are the slope and or a surface too uneven to touch on. These are the problems all helicopters are faced with. There is no problem putting the wheels on but holding the weight off while the patient is loaded through the ramp and if that's not feasible then you can just winch.
During the hours of darkness the S92's are still available for HEMS ops. The only place they can legally land are pre surveyed floodlit sites. This is a legal requirement for HEMS operations which must be Class one performance at all times. These are dotted around the country and are used frequently when requested.
If the IAC have been extended till December then that's good news. I do wonder what will happen between now and then in relation to the EASA ruling that comes into effect on the 28th of this month. It's pretty clear on what's HEMS and what's not.Last edited by Meatbomb; 20 October 2014, 00:31.
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Originally posted by Rhodes View PostIf it can be done then why aren't CHC doing it? Why are they forcing time critical casualties to be transported by road to landing sites on hard ground?
The pilot EAS has been extended until December and decision has been made to make it permanent, no matter what is going to happen at the end of the month and how much you envy the Air Corps great service
What altitude do the ships and boats fly at that contact Coast Guard bases on land requesting help? If a vessel in the Irish SAR region can contact Coast Guard bases but the rescue helicopter flying higher cant then there is something seriously wrong.
But don't expect to come on here with limited or misinformed information about IRCG ops or comms fit and not get challenged on it.
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The next couple of months will certainly be interesting in terms of EAS and one would hope that the Air Corps would be rewarded for their efforts in what appears to be a highly valued service. The customer appears to be well satisfied too. Whether or not the AC would be better off in or out is open to debate and a lot probably depends on the upcoming White Paper on Defence.
EASA or not there are always alternative options available to Gov't. HEMS/EAS is of course laden with vested interests, many openly visible on here. No doubt the Govt are being lobbied extensively by these same interests and every effort is being made in some quarters to exclude the AC. The Gov't should be wary however and hopefully they've learned something in terms of VFM from the last State civilian helicopter contract. Different era maybe ......!
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