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  • New Generals?

    From the Dail Yesterday
    As of 31 December 2011 there was one vacancy at the rank of major general and one vacancy at the rank of brigadier general. Promotion competitions to fill these vacancies are currently under way. There were six and 12 vacancies, respectively, at the ranks of colonel and lieutenant colonel. The number of vacancies cited has been calculated based on the total number of Permanent Defence Force personnel specified in the employment control framework, which is 10,000. Once the reorganisation has been completed, it will be necessary to recalculate the number of vacancies based on the outcome of that process and in light of a reduced strength of 9,500.

    For the interest of Members of the House, the promotion competition for major general is taking place on 22 and 24 February; that for brigadier general is on 13, 20 and 21 February; that for colonel is on 12 March; that for the Army engineer corps is on 4 to 5 April; and there are a range of other dates between February and April on which the various other competitions for vacant positions will take place. Without major delay, I am expecting to be in a position to announce promotions once the independent boards have sat, the applications have been assessed and the recommendations have been furnished to me.
    1x Maj Gen(22,24feb)
    1x Brig Gen(13,20/21feb)
    6x Col(12Mar)
    12x Lt Col(??)

    A future COS will most definitely be amongst those promoted after the competitions above. Is there any bright and shining lights coming up the officer ranks, that aren't close to retirement, who can steer the DF through the White paper process, in the days of recession, while still keeping a credible and efficient Defence Force?


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

  • #2
    So the Minister announces that he wants to reduce the establishment of the DF, yet he continues to promote the most senior ranks based on the old structure. JOBS FOR THE BOYS , the pile of hypocrits. As regards to "one shining light" who may be our COS, the only general worth his salt passed when Lt Gen Earley died. The rest of them are worthless and the fact that they are pushing for these positions shows that they have absolutely no interest in reforming the DF. It should be noted that throughout the moratorium on promotion in the DF the general appointments did not remain vacant too long while junior more important (and cheaper) appointments remained vacant.

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    • #3
      If the COS/DOD say that the 2 brigade structure means that a Major-General will be the COS what are they going to do?

      Having said that due to their duties GOCs and DCOSs are vital posts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DeV View Post
        If the COS/DOD say that the 2 brigade structure means that a Major-General will be the COS what are they going to do?

        Having said that due to their duties GOCs and DCOSs are vital posts.
        The CoS position has been held by a Maj-Gen in the past, so no reason why this could not happen

        Would be hard with all the reductions and struggling to maintain the 9,500 level, to justify the same
        number of personnel in the General Staff, in my opinion

        The D CoS positions would revert to Brig-Gen ranks... PDFORRA will go nuts if the status quo is maintained,
        if their membership is being shredded (numbers, pay, etc etc)
        "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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        • #5
          Ridiculous.

          Not in the least bit surprising though.

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          • #6
            What about those outside the army? Will the Army let someone not in a green uniform hold the top job?


            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
              What about those outside the army? Will the Army let someone not in a green uniform hold the top job?
              We already let an Air Corps lad in and the whole Country went into recession- imagine what would happen if a sea hag was given a real job.
              Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
              The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
              The best lack all conviction, while the worst
              Are full of passionate intensity.

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              • #8
                Brig Gen

                A 2nd Brig Gen vacancy arose last week, i wonder will that be added to the honey pot !?

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                • #9
                  And when they promote all the lt colonels, there will be more lt col vacancies to fill, then there'll be colonel vacancies, and more brig gen vacancies etc.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #10
                    The rank structure does not equate to what we have on paper. We do not need the rank structure as currently exists within the Army.Given we have Lt Cols holding positions that other armies would have Captains holding, its a ridiculous set up.

                    Jobs for the boys, pension them off.
                    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                    • #11
                      Back to the old joke, what do call a Commandant who can't get a job in civvy street...... A Lt Colonel.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • #12
                        "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

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                        • #13
                          Any IMOers going for any of the jobs? (as he looks meaningfully at Hedgie )
                          'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                          'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                          Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                          He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                          http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
                            Given we have Lt Cols holding positions that other armies would have Captains holding, its a ridiculous set up.
                            Such as ? In the main Lt Colonels are COs of major units, 2ICs/SOs to Directors and ICs of Schools in the DFTC

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              Such as ? In the main Lt Colonels are COs of major units, 2ICs/SOs to Directors and ICs of Schools in the DFTC
                              There are loads holding office posts in directorates, admin officers in brigade hqs and assorted accounting positions in DFHQ.


                              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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