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    Interesting move that.By appointing him to FC as a Maj Gen he can potentially return to Ireland as Lt Gen on promotion to CoS.Had he been appointed a rank higher he would have had to retire on his return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Interesting move that.By appointing him to FC as a Maj Gen he can potentially return to Ireland as Lt Gen on promotion to CoS.Had he been appointed a rank higher he would have had to retire on his return.
    Is Brig Beary promoted as Major General or only to this rank while in UNIFIL ?

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    As I understand the rank is temp for the duration of the posting and his existing/prior rank prevails on completion of the posting. Unless otherwise promoted or there is a specific DFR passed to provide otherwise he would retire as a Brig.Gen with that title and financial effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    One of the best promoters of orienteering out there.
    And a great advocate of specialist skills in the reserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Interesting move that.By appointing him to FC as a Maj Gen he can potentially return to Ireland as Lt Gen on promotion to CoS.Had he been appointed a rank higher he would have had to retire on his return.
    Didn't something similar happen with Lt. Gen. Pat Nash.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Didn't something similar happen with Lt. Gen. Pat Nash.
    he retired at the end of the mission i thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by northie View Post
    he retired at the end of the mission i thought
    Because he had no place left to go. You can't hold a Maj Gen vacancy open for an overseas Lt Gen appointment, and you can't assume when he returns, the current lt gen will move aside to give him the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northie View Post
    he retired at the end of the mission i thought
    He did indeed
    Time for another break I think......

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    UNIFIL transfer of authority ceremony today

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    No better candidate, and he won't have to deal with the mandarins in DoD any more.
    Will he become Admiral(OF9), given that he would replace a full general?
    Who would be a likely replacement?
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    People were only discussing this at my location last week. So the Senator that wanted to make an amendment to the defence act to allow for a full admiral so as not to have to do this again in a few years may be proved right.

    Edit just checked the suggested amendments and both Sean O'Fearghail and Dennis Naughton recommended including a rank of admiral, they also sought to bring the Air Corps ranks in line. Yet still we decided not to think ahead.
    Last edited by Bravo20; 19th September 2017 at 20:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmití View Post
    No better candidate, and he won't have to deal with the mandarins in DoD any more.
    Will he become Admiral(OF9), given that he would replace a full general?
    Who would be a likely replacement?
    No doubt the wearers of the green will be delighted to support his nominate to reclaim their rightful seat at the top of the table.

    Would probably depend on how long the job is for as again if promoted he can't return to his current job as he'd out rank the CoS.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    No doubt the wearers of the green will be delighted to support his nominate to reclaim their rightful seat at the top of the table.

    Would probably depend on how long the job is for as again if promoted he can't return to his current job as he'd out rank the CoS.
    The position is for 3 years according to what I read in the Irish Times
    Edit: just realised the link above is the article I read
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    Time for an infantry COS to make infantry great again ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    Time for an infantry COS to make infantry great again ;-)
    perhaps time for an Inf COS to halve the size of the infantry - give the PID's and funding to Logs, Artillery, CIS and Armour/Mobilty so they actually put 3 Inf Bn's into the field rather than one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropebag View Post
    perhaps time for an Inf COS to halve the size of the infantry - give the PID's and funding to Logs, Artillery, CIS and Armour/Mobilty so they actually put 3 Inf Bn's into the field rather than one...
    Heresy.

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    Gen Beary for next CoS?? How long is his appt with UNIFIL and what's his retirement age in his current rank?
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    Retirement age is 62 for Lt Gen I think

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    didnt we talk about that - its stand down and gone for Mick B when it comes if he doesn't get COS ..>Although I can think of no-one better first one since DE I trust completely
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    You don't want an old CoS, counting down to retirement. You want someone there for at least 5 years if possible. MM Had the andvantage that not all have in being DCOS for a considerable period beforehand, and his retirement age was and still is far off..
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    Although I can think of no-one better first one since DE I trust completely
    Absolutely misplaced in the man mentioned. Once promoted the game changes and they become political pawns as opposed to having in depth loyalty to the branch or units they came from.

    Early was prepared to sacrifice the reserve to maintain a three brigade structure.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Well if I thought I could choose between having 2000 full time troops or 8000 (really 4000) limited part time troops I would sacrafice the reserve in the morning

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